[Darwin]

First of all, I want to start this thread by stating that I am not trying to troll, cause problems or otherwise bash Cannabiogen. I love this strain and am keeping it and breeding future generations of it.

Situation: I purchased three packs of PCK from Cannabiogen and decided to grow them all out at once in order to get purple females and good males to establish my own line of PCK. I like to save my own breeding lines in order to preserve the best I discover. See my signature to view my work preserving Apollo 11. I don't like to buy in to the hype and prefer to grow true breeding strains that I can preserve for myself for future years.

I had 100% germination with Cannabiogen's PCK seeds and they grew quite strongly. Upon flowering I had only 30% female's, something that was surprising but not a big deal. Of the females I did get, 1/3 are completely purple, 1/3 are pinkish purple and 1/3 are green. I'm ecstatic about the females that have come out of this line. I have not harvested yet but they appear to be excellent.

Upon flowering my males, I have found something very discouraging. Many of the males are producing female flowers:



Now this isn't to say there aren't true males:



I was just very disapointed to see a 75% hermi male ratio upon flowering. Now just to reassure you I am also flowering out A11 F4 males from my own breeding, in the same space:



I have seen no hermi's and have never seen hermi's from this line. I'm certainly not trying to promote my own line at all, I am providing this picture simply to show that other males in the same conditions are not going hermi.

Once again I am not trying to troll or bash this line; truly I love the female PCK plants. However this information should be discussed. Given the high male ratio I got on the plants I have to wonder whether this male hermi is a tendency in this line.

Please do not post trash or flame. I truly intend this post as a discussion on the issue. Thank you.

[Ise]

that pck male doesn't look to healthy imo, how are the rest looking? You got about 10 females & 20 males & 75% of your males are showing both sexes. Sounds environmental to me. I hope you can find a keeper in your stable males. How are your females looking? Are the males & females in the same room?

Peace
Ise

[Darwin]

Once again, if it were environment why would my a11 be flowering as true males? This is the same environment I have used for more than 10 years, breeding a11 and many other strains through the years. I have never seen something like this. I am truly not trying to start a flame war. Apologize for the pics, will take more later without the hps light. They are perfectly healthy clones. Like I said, the females are fine, actually perfect. I am astounded the males are showing female parts.

[Ise]

hey darwin, what pck stock do you have (year released)? This is my first time seeing and reading about this within the pck line. Perhaps the plant combinations used in the newer stock gave way to a recessive hermi trait? Good luck dude, hopefully kaiki or seedbou will replace your beans so you can find you some nice males.

Peace
Ise

[Classic Seeds]

i had the same thing happen with them no true 100% males so i did not breed i could name a dozen different strains that have done this in other peoples indica lines i have tried to grow and its genetics that does that in most cases try some other indicas and look for the purple ones and hope the males are not like this .thats why i always grow some provin ones with my test ones it keeps you covered when you have these set backs with your plans

[Hammerhead]

PCK is good breeding stock. Your A11 are probably not as temperamental to the recessive trait. I grew out the same amount as you 30 seeds. I got 17 females no Hermie males. If there is a good male use it..

[midsummer]

I had a sensi star male do that recently. The females were fine. There were a few (less than one per plant) bannanas on the females.
I wonder if this type of herm is also associated with a female to male herm. I believe DJ short was big on this type of herm. He called it a "backward hemaphrodite" (p 56 Cultivating Exceptional Cannabis by DJ SHort). When bred they gave more females in the next gen and was protective of the female to male transformation (ie they actually decreased the probability of a future generation female to male herm).
I have a number of these too (PCK beans). When I grow them; if I get these males I will use them and monitor the line over the years. I may learn something.

[GP73LPC]

Originally Posted by midsummer

I had a sensi star male do that recently. The females were fine. There were a few (less than one per plant) bannanas on the females.
I wonder if this type of herm is also associated with a female to male herm. I believe DJ short was big on this type of herm. He called it a "backward hemaphrodite" (p 56 Cultivating Exceptional Cannabis by DJ SHort). When bred they gave more females in the next gen and was protective of the female to male transformation (ie they actually decreased the probability of a future generation female to male herm).
I have a number of these too (PCK beans). When I grow them; if I get these males I will use them and monitor the line over the years. I may learn something.

i read that too...

doesn't necessarily sound like a bad thing...

[Ras Pablo]

Sometimes happend....from best lines as Skunk, Ak's etc until pure lines wich is "normal" find intersex traits... but in general the 75 % are not intesex...

Also resin + male sex....use to be hermie

[Lean Green]

Deep Chunk does it, PTK, Nordle(Afghan/Skunk), Kodiak Gold,Herijuana, a lot of the inbred and pure lines I've run kick out males that show pistils(sp?). Just kill them and use your solid males for the reproductions and breeding. Hopefully in time you'll be able to clean up those intersex traits. Make the selections and test the offspring, that's all we can do as growers