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View Poll Results: Do you think it's Right to Charge over $100 for Standard seeds? Not Fem's
Yes 6 12.24%
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Yes, They made them, they can charge whatever 14 28.57%
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Old 04-26-2004, 01:29 AM #1
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Seed Breeder and their Prices

Ok, I was wondering after watching the movie Easy Rider. Do you think it's ok for Breeder to be Charging over $100 for a few seeds? It really get's me pissed off to hear them talk about how they are trying to spread cannabis around the world to help make it free and all. Then i see their prices and get pissed. I was scrolling through SD and looking at prices and saw Hash Plant for $150 bucks. God, that is some expensive stuff, then i look at other seed companys like Serious,THseeds,BOG,REZ,Nirvan a,Dutch Passion, etc and most of all their standard seeds are priced pretty nice. I know the Fem's are special and can understand them being more but like some of the strain that other places sell for more and i mean twice as much as SD sells strains, like NYCD,AK47,Hash Plant,Jack Herer,Blueberry,Neville Hazes. It really pisses me off that you read that their trying to help people grow more cannabis and help free it. Then i see people that are very sick or even dieing that can't afford good seeds, get ripped off from people like Emery. I'm glad Cali had the med clubs where sick people can get good cheap clones, but there are alot of people that don't have access to med clubs. Am i the only one that get's pissed about this? I will be talking very load about this at the next Cup and might even get kick out, but screw them. It's not right, after all the work is done on a strain to keep charging the over prices on a strain. I want to hear from others.
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PS Easy Rider had nothing to do with cannabis seeds. Just saw those people planting seeds and Dennis saying they aren't going to grow. Or something like that.
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Old 04-26-2004, 01:36 AM #2
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I understand what your saying about the high prices, but these people are putting their ass on the line to spread these seeds. Afterall it is an illegal business in most places.

As for me I'll pay the prices, just ask yourself what if there was never any seed banks? We'd a be growin bagseed!
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Old 04-26-2004, 01:45 AM #3
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Sharp_Pain, I agree with you, but think about this. For how many years has it been "some what" ok for breeders to make seeds in Holland, and other places. It's now getting harder and people are looking for more places to breed, and the laws are screwed up. I take a chance every day and if something happens, then it's my fault. I agree with you, but to charge for one or two strains for over 100 dollars when all the others are cheaper. There nothing wrong with bag seeds. You just don't know what your getting. Thanks to the seed banks you can pick what you want. Wasn't there a few strains that are now sold from bag seeds? Thanks for stopping by. I pay for what i want and it's not that bad, but other people might not be able to afford them. I'm pissed for the little guy that can get the top of the line beans.
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Old 04-26-2004, 02:41 AM #4
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yeah i dont see how there is so much dif in price from one bank to other. if there are some big quality dif then sure it can cost more. but when it costs 1000% more from the others , something not rite.
maybe because there is only small stock of these seeds, or they take more time to make, or they just killer, or this is what they feel want for these and that's that.
all seeds i think shod have one price like nirvana seeds. they charge same for all better or worse strains. i like how they have it.
and yes many people like my self cant just spend $150 for 10 seeds. and you know you need many more than that to get a good grow going. so yes we do loose on this deal. only the rich get a tax break.

and yes: they made them they can charge what they want.

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Old 04-26-2004, 04:19 AM #5
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Your totally right. I also like Nirvana strain's and have grown a few of them and been very happy. I also like how the pricing is setup.. Wish the others would follow their lead.
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Old 04-26-2004, 12:13 PM #6
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Have a think for a minute and setup a pretend seed company in your head. Exactly how much do you think it would cost you to produce 1 kilo of stabilised, high quality seeds. From those you can only sell the best ones for the higher price. It's not cheap, it's often not legal, it's often done in secret and at great initial expense.
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So, are you saying the others aren't stable? I'm talking about the ones that they have on their menu for alot more. Look at Some of these companies. They have most of their seeds that are priced nice then they have a few that are 100.120, 130, and even 150. Then you got companies like Dutch Passion, Sagamtha that have a super line up and great prices. I'm sure the member here know some of the companies i'm talking about. The compies overhead "does not" rely on just those few kickass strains they choose to charge alot more for. "It's not cheap, it's often not legal, it's often done in secret and at great initial expense." The key word here is "initial", these companies have been in business for how many years. So, you think it wouldn't cost them that much since they already have a system and structor for making seeds. Again, I'm not trying to piss anyone off or start a fight. I just want to hear from everyones side and point of view. I'll be talking to a bunch of the seeds vender when i head to amsterdam and get their point of view on some of their high dollar seeds. Oh, i also forgot the surpply and deman. Everyone have a super Monday.
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Old 04-26-2004, 03:28 PM #8
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i never really saw seed prices as being that out of control. it seems for those in america anyway the goin rate for an ounce of fine ganja can easily be 350 to 400 and since one seed should produce a decent amount if you clone or breed, so prices coud certainly be higher. it seems that $100 just isnt a lot of money anymore and maybe that has to do with where i live but i know i see so many kids pilling in a mall near my home spending 150 on a pair of jeans or 60 on a shirt and they buy a few things at a time. my only question about the price is stability of the genetics like has just been mentioned but its the same as buying those expensive clothes that just rip after a few weeks, you just gotta keep your whits about ya cause always someone taking advantage if you let them.
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Old 04-26-2004, 04:20 PM #9
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Yes, they made them, they can charge whatever they want.

Supply and demand. Cost has always been a factor for me when buying seeds. People might not be able to afford the top two or three strains, but there are so many high quality, stable strains to choose from that are affordable. If a breeder charges $300 dollars for a pack of 10 seeds and you can buy a strain just as good for $75, then the consumer is to blame for buying the $300 pack of seeds. Breeding cannabis, or anything else, isn't easy. It takes up alot of time and space.

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Old 04-27-2004, 11:37 AM #10
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BillyGoat-Shop around.You will find HashPlant for a lot more $$ elsewhere. Gypsy's is just under half the price of other seed co.'s. It isn't the Breeder that sets the price. Rarely will the breeder market their own wares. Prices are determined by the seller and are set by "How much can I command for these beans".There may not be a big difference in price between European companies but the price of Sensi's "Mr.Nice" G13 X HP at SD is $120 for 16 beans and at Kind Seed or Great Canadian or The Amsterdam the Price is $250 to $280 for 10 seeds. I can understand a travel differential (they had to ship the beans to Canada)but a more than 100% mark up and only 10 beans is a ripoff. I think some Canadian seed shops are in a price level agreement to keep the beans more expensive. This may be why they haven't quite embraced Gypsy and Dr. Chronic fully. Keep the genes good and the prices FAIR. Go to Sensi and see what their suggested retail price is.
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