[toastfighter2]

(For those who don't want to read a lot of fluff, skip to the Break Down)
For the past 6 to 7 years, I have had relatively decent success using cloning into rockwool starter cubes using the MG Fast Root, which has its perks. It is super cheap(roughly $6.75), easy to get(walmart, and nearly every hardware store around me stocks it), it last goes pretty far(I have only bought two bottles since I have started using it, and to be fair, that was only because I miss placed one of them), and it just plain works on top of everything.
Recently I was talking to another grower, who has a few more years and crops under his belt, recommended that I give Olivia's cloning Gel a try. He swears by it and it is all he ever uses, but I am of the thinking if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I did get a little curious, and did some reading up on it, and only heard good things, so I figured wth, its only $14, and if it works better, it is worth it, so I grabbed a small bottle when I was getting some new starter cubes.
That is this little project got started. Now for the details:
I started eight cubes soaking in ph'ed water yesterday, and today I pulled them out and drained the just like I do every time I start cuttings. Then I split them down the middle, so there is two strips of 4, and placed them in a freshly washed and rinsed tray. I proceeded to take 8 new cuttings(all from the same plant and all roughly the same size)and put them in a cup of clean water as I was cutting them(as per usual). I placed a stake in each strip indicating which one was to be the MG Fast Root, and the same for the Olivia's Cloning Gel. Alternating between the Olivia's and the MG(as not to let one set soak in water longer than the other), I placed each cutting in it prospective strip until all 8 were in their new homes. I placed the whole tray under my shop light, and on the heat mat where I usually place my fresh cuts. Now to wait for the magic to happen.
Break down-
10/21-Soak starter cubes
10/22-Start two sets of cuts, 4 in Miracle Grow Fast Root, and 4 in Olivia's Cloning Gel. Labeled both sets.
Take picture of whole thing when done and wait for the results.

[supermanlives]

good idea, i used olivias gel and liquid for years. now i use woods and i aint going back

[the gnome]

are they still rooting...

[Landmark]

Have you given clonex a try? I've used woods and olivia's, they all work really just seem to get best results with the clonex



5 days later they look like this in 3.5 gallon Hempy's

[TonyGreenHand]

Yes please what happened? I don't like either of these products so I'm interested to see these results

[Budley Doright]

Originally Posted by Landmark

Have you given clonex a try? I've used woods and olivia's, they all work really just seem to get best results with the clonex



5 days later they look like this in 3.5 gallon Hempy's

Landmark.... i love the size of your clones....


any chance of describing how you clone monsters like that....


I would think a dome would be necessary.....


Anyways.... how do you do it?????

[Herborizer]

What I cant stand about olivia's gel, is that it's so thick its a PITA to get the gel on a cutting.

Originally Posted by Burnt Rope

Landmark.... i love the size of your clones....


any chance of describing how you clone monsters like that....


I would think a dome would be necessary.....


Anyways.... how do you do it?????

Would love to hear also

[Landmark]

Originally Posted by Burnt Rope

Landmark.... i love the size of your clones....


any chance of describing how you clone monsters like that....


I would think a dome would be necessary.....


Anyways.... how do you do it?????

BIG MOMS!



then I use a small cylinder that I fill with Clonex Gel, I then place the cylinder inside a small cup which keeps it from tipping over when I place larger clones in, I do 5 at a time, each on looks like this...


I leave it in the gel for 4-5minutes, I poke a hole 3/4 of the way in the rapid rooter close to the edge of the cube top to bottom with a chop stick, then clone goes in cube. I DO NOT trim any of the leaves

Now this is the cloner I built, I suspend the rapid rooter so that it sits in @1/8th to 1/4" aerated 78-80degree water for the first week, I do not top up the resevoir, as the rooters start drying the plants send roots, I do keep a dome on for the first week and air it out every 3 days or so. After the first week dome comes off completely
temps get backed down to @75 and I keep a 1/2" water line from bottom of cube. water is Maxibloom 500-600ppm, ph 6.0.


LOTS of aeration!

[Budley Doright]

Great thanks....


I just did my first batch of 12 inch clones with success....

Im not planning on looking back....

I did in fact remove the fan leaves....


but used no aeration....


They were done in vermiculite with no aeration.....


Much the same as yours ....mine sat in water about an inch deep and the water wicked into the medium....


I found that after 2 days or so the stems swelled and allowed the stems to pull more water....


Im in the process of making moms.... whereas before I just used material from plants in veg....


to take large clones moms are more necessary.....



I needed to change my methods due do my grows being medical and less plants....


IMO you should do a thread on large clones.....


I think there is a huge value and no threads to that end....


One bit of reservation on your method....


Im not sure you get much from the aeration....


response?????


Ill be doing some further experiments myself in the coming weeks.....