[Lugen]

Why do they not have Canadian lawyers listed on this site? I was dissappointed, they have tons of american lawyers, I would like a list of some top notch Canadian lawyers to protect us!!

*edit to say* Although they dont list Canadian lawyers they DO do ALOT of terrific work for the mj community, I just wanted to add that so people didnt think I was whinning about Norml, cause I know the DO TONS of good!!

[SativaJoe]

I was under the impression NORML was a US based 501 (c)(3) non-profit foundation, therefore deals with US reform. I'm sure canada has more than a few Pro-Pot related sites with the info your looking for.

[Batman]

I'll tell you what my problem is with NORML...

This is an organization that has done some very good things for the MJ cause since their inception many years ago, but I do think that they need to update much of their strategies.

For many, many years I donated a couple of thousand dollars to NORML every year, however, about 4 years or so ago, as I was about to send off my yearly check to them and I sent an email offering a few suggestions ragarding their use of the money that I send to them every year, I was promptly told to go fuck myself for all intents and purposes. Here's the story........

We all know that you can't pick up an issue of High Times magazine without seeing an advertisement in there about MJ prohibition being a terribly wrong thing, no?

Okay, well my position on the matter is that by spending money on placing advertisements in High Times and other similar publications amounts to basically "preaching to the chior". I mean, who are they trying to convince, the people who already smoke MJ?

I suggested that instead of spending the badly needed funds on placing advertisements in magazines that are probably 100% subscribed to, and read by people who already agree with NORML's position, and are already against this rediculous prohibition, that this money might be better put to use by placing advertisements in more mainstream publications, such as TIME, NEWSWEEK, GQ, ESQUIRE, et cetera.

If they placed their resources in the mainstream media, I believe that they would be able to reach, or at least inform a huge number of people that have never opened a High Times magazine.

Anyway, after a couple of emails and then a couple of telephone calls, it became clear to me that NORML wasn't interested in being aggressive, not like they were in the 70's anyway.

They had no interest in placing advertisements in the mainstream publications and want to stick with preaching their anti-prohibition message to the people who are already in agreement with their position.

I'm sorry, but I'm having significant difficulty in wrapping my brain around that strategy.

From that day forward, I stopped contributing to NORML, and started sending my money to MPP (marijuana policy project) and other organizations that are more concerned with REALLY forwarding our cause and bringing about the end of MJ prohibition.

Sure, NORML's advertisements look great and contain a wonderful message, but by limiting theyr efforts to people who already smoke or otherwise use Marijuana, they are accomplishing very little towards accomplishing our goal in my opinion.

well, I could go on much longer about this, and some of the details of this story would trulu amaze you all, I assure you. But I think I've made my point. Right or wrong, NORML will never see another cent from me, nor will they be supported by me in their efforts to convince marijuana users that MJ prohibition is a bad thing.

-bat

[Lugen]

www.norml.ca i believe is the Canadian version.

Very interesting story Batman, it's nice to hear about your donations, glad its going to an organization that its proactive in the mj movement.

I was just looking for a Canadian lawyer to put on retainer...

[gaiusmarius]

Great post Batman,

very good point. highly susspicious, why preach to the converted? in fact you make alot of good points in your posts in general.

peace
gm

[Marvin Martian]

Batman:

I have to agree with the major points of your post. Another thing I have noticed, is that they are not providing much coverage of successes associated with MPP. I know there is some history behind this, but on the other hand...........there is one goal in mind and it does not make any difference to me WHO accomplishes it, rather that they are working towards the goals. By my observations, MPP has done more for the cause in 10 years than Norml has in 30. I hope they are listening.............

[Darkness]

Anyone know of where to find MJ lawyers for Canada except for John Conroy, which everyone already knows about.

[Underground Man]

the N stands for national

[Templedogs]

Did you try norml.CA ????? and norml does not pay for the ads in HT...from what I understand Tom Forcade had left a percentage of profits of HT to go to Norml....however I think some underhanded sh*t went down and they got screwed out of what they were due...so HT throws them a bone by giving them free adspace.

[I.M. Boggled]

This is an organization that has done some very good things for the MJ cause since their inception many years ago, but I do think that they need to update much of their strategies.

I agree with your assessment, many of these old tired so called "proven strategies" simply are not enlightening the right people...
"Mainstream Mom and Pop" society is were the message needs to be delivered, In the U.S., the "Marijuana Policy Project" lobbying efforts excel at this, imho, (given their budget restraints...) by consistently infusing an intelligent message in an intelligent manner at relevent times in the various political conversations across the land.

Counteracting the many lies regarding Cannabis is not an easy task, so ingrained through the generations is the "common wisdom"/ perceptions of "marijuana" as being very bad and overall harmful in all respects type of thing...

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous, and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James-

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The Canadian version of Norml is just that,
"A National organization to reform Marijuana Laws in Canada"...
Being technically a seperate Non-Profit, public interest, chartered entity, with a completely different board of directors and such, I would speculate...
(i'd have to fact check/compare the board of directors..)
https://norml.ca/


Official Policy
NORML Canada
STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES [/b]
https://www.norml.ca//index.php?modul...N_position=6:6
They have a forum at the Canadian site, that may be a possible place to come up wth locale specific attorney recommendations.