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Old 10-01-2011, 03:46 PM #1
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LED Mythbusting, KILL A WATT proof

Please share pics of any LED unit you have plugged into a Kill A Watt...


WELTHINK WEX-C150
Advertised: 150
Real: 109





LUMIGROW 330
Advertised: 330
Real: 331





HYDROGROW 205
Advertised: 205
Real: 176





HYDROGROW 345
Advertised: 345
Real: 279




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Old 10-01-2011, 04:17 PM #2
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Lots of these units have thermostatically controlled fans, right? So in any given picture, the lamp could potentially pull more watts than is being shown.

Which just points to the difficulty of doing LED comparisons: watts used are not all even generating light.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this even a valid comparison? Don't most newer consumer electronics have built-in wattage controllers that only go full out when necessary?
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:37 PM #4
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@zymos,
not sure on the thermostatically controlled fans. the fans on my unit run when the light is on. not saying this is perfect, but it's better than the myths perpetuated by the manufacturers...

@LoSwaga,
i don't know that answer. but this is more realistic than the Advertised Watts...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this even a valid comparison? Don't most newer consumer electronics have built-in wattage controllers that only go full out when necessary?
If you are referring to something like the power management circuitry in laptops, then the answer is no. How would a light fixture determine when it was appropriate to run at full strength?

Zymos, yes, there are some wattage variations on my Lumigrow ES330 - the above picture was the low point, and I have seem it up to 337 watts.
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lumigrow es 165 leds powered off and only fans running uses 8.2 watts of power - some leds are burnt out so this reading is really pointless...


here you can see some leds are not working, thus this is all really kind of pointless about me posting lumigrow es 165 info right now but taking pics and whatnot is fun so whatever


lumigrow es 165 blue only leds using 40.1 watts of power - some leds are burnt out so this reading is really pointless...


sunshine systems glowpanel 45 - advertised at 28 watts, using 24.3 watts of power


lumigrow es 165 only red leds using 108 watts of power - some leds are burnt out so this reading is really pointless...


lumigrow es 165 full power 140 watts - some leds are burnt out so this reading is really pointless...


cheap ebay led panel model 2501 quad using 4.8 watts of power, advertised to use 14 watts of power, note that some leds have died on this, so let's guesstimate about 6 watts total



haight solid state ppf-400 revision 1.1 using 77.1 watts of power when on full power mode, website states it is a 90 watt led lamp


haight solid state ppf-400 revision 1.1 using 26.5 watts of power when on low power mode


250 watt hps lamp 2 minutes after being turned on using 170 watts of power


250 watt hps lamp 20 minutes after being turned on using 249 watts of power


40 watt cfl bulb using 28.5 watts of power

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Old 10-01-2011, 10:32 PM #7
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wow, thanks for the contribution smokefrogg
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btw smokefrogg, are you gonna send that ES 165 for repair? those have a 5 year warranty, correct?
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btw smokefrogg, are you gonna send that ES 165 for repair? those have a 5 year warranty, correct?
yes, i just had to let it finish something up and then shift around some mid flowering plants, i'll probably send it back monday, i'll do this again when i get it back from repair...the es 165 is only a 3 year warranty, it's under 1 year old though so i'm good!
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cool !!!

all the ads i see say 5 years, at least today...
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