[Hammerhead]

Here is the link. I would love to try a LED someday. Gotta wait until the price is reasonable. Seems like a nice unit but what do I know lol. I just hope there better then ledgirls shit was.

https://357magled.3dcartstores.com/35...ight_p_15.html

[GP73LPC]

both magnum lights and the stealth grow sg602 have been added...

check page 1, post 1 for the latest charts...

[Hammerhead]

Price for the plus model is 999.00 on sale normal price is 1299.99

[GP73LPC]

charts updated again

[rives]

Originally Posted by GP73LPC

They have a Mag+ model. The sentence following the 180 watts says the new model does put out 357 watts...

If you follow the 357 Magnum link on the right side of their main page, it shows this:

357w of Pure Efficient Flower Producing Power (compare to 600w of HID), 180w actual power draw

and at the bottom of the ad it says this:

357 Magnum Product Specifications:dimensions: 19" long x 12.5" wide x 3" deep
footprint: 1 square meter
power output: 357w
operating temp: -20C ~ + 40C
voltage: 110v North American ~ 220v European
weight: 16 lbs

Both are supposed to be for the standard, not the plus, unit. Looks like they need to overhaul their ad a bit.

[asde²]

3w Bridgelux, Epistar & Edison Diodes - the used led's are inefficient anyways

beside that, their description is really WTF? BOOOOOOOM! LOL!!!

[zymos]

There's an LED-centric growing forum out there where the Magnums seem to be the lamp of choice- plenty of grow journals using them.
Check out ledbudguy...

[T_B_M]

Originally Posted by asde²

3w Bridgelux, Epistar & Edison Diodes - the used led's are inefficient anyways

beside that, their description is really WTF? BOOOOOOOM! LOL!!!

I have yet to find a 3W emitter on either of those manufacturer's sites. What I do find are weakly powered LEDs. Unless there are certain LEDs that are manufactured that aren't on their site.

If a light don't use either Cree, LEDEngin, or Osram, it isn't worth it. Why buy mediocrity when you can buy top shelf?

Epistar doesn't have good emitter IMO, I checked all their spec sheets. I see a lot of LED retailers use them, and I can't figure out why. Oh yeah, because they want to make money. Thank God for profit margins.

I see some people say we are paying for the research, but that is ignorant BS. They are robbing people left and right because people don't know any better. They build cheaper lights because most people are cheap asses who don't want to spring $1000 on a light, such as the Lumigrows. I don't really blame them, but c'mon, why buy a mediocre light that doesn't even output its advertised rating? Suckers are born every minute I guess.

[alkalien]

It should be possible to build lights at arround 30€ plus 2€ per W using above average bin Osram or Cree LEDs. This would still leave you arround 20% margin. I can't see why to pay more than arround 0,90€/W for a LED Panel with standard LEDs. That is, of course, talking about actual W...

[T_B_M]

Originally Posted by zymos

There's an LED-centric growing forum out there where the Magnums seem to be the lamp of choice- plenty of grow journals using them.
Check out ledbudguy...

That site is hosted by Magnum. Of course it will talk them up and show only good grows. Find me a finished journal of a normal poster......after a half hour of reading, the only decent plants I saw were from the moderator. Most other journals fizzled out after the flouring started. Hmm. Call me skeptical, but I smell more BS.

You have to realize something, the whole LED industry is pretty much BS. Not the technology, just the shysters in the industry.