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Old 08-16-2011, 07:31 PM #1
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Obama Stumped by Question on Marijuana Legalization

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It's become pretty clear that the president is going to be asked about marijuana legalization absolutely any time he takes questions from the public, so it kind of amazes me that he is actually getting worse at talking about it. This latest exchange is just embarrassing:
President Barack Obama sidestepped a question about medical marijuana legalization at a town hall event in Cannon Falls, Minnesota Monday.

"If you can't legalize marijuana, why can't you just legalize medical marijuana?" a woman asked the president.
"A lot of states are making decisions about medical marijuana," Obama explained. "As a controlled substance, the issue is then that is it being prescribed by a doctor as opposed to... you know, well, I'll leave it at that." [Raw Story]
That is the best he can do to address one of the hottest topics in modern American politics. He'll just "leave it at that," because an increasingly frustrated public might react negatively to a slightly lengthier attempt at explaining why anyone, least of all sick people, should ever have to worry about being arrested and thrown in jail for having some marijuana in their pocket.
To find oneself speechless in the midst of an intensifying debate is to reveal rather transparently the utter incoherence of one's position, and this could be the most complete collapse yet in the ugly history of political leaders trying and failing to defend our nation's massively unpopular war on medical marijuana. Reread, if you must, the statement above from Obama and ask yourself if that is an adequate answer to a question that continues to burn in the minds of so many among us.
Let me be the first to say that I am really very sorry that President Obama and various other people who don't want to discuss marijuana policy are being routinely forced against their will to do so. I can imagine what an annoying distraction this is when we have so many other issues to work on. There just seems to be some sort of misunderstanding happening here, wherein we came under the impression that if marijuana wasn't important enough to warrant even 30 seconds of meaningful discussion from the president, then it's also probably not important enough to justify arresting millions of us for possessing it.
I know I don't get to make the rules here, but it would be wonderful and very appropriate if we could just stop all of this, stop putting anyone at all in handcuffs for having marijuana, until someone like President Obama can at least summon the integrity to tell us in intelligent terms why things have to be this way. A leader speaks to the people and helps us understand the challenges we face. Obama's approach to marijuana policy and the debate surrounding it is not leadership, it's cowardice, and it's senseless from every standpoint, moral, practical and political.
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:07 PM #2
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we cant just vote in some guy and expect him to stand against the status quo alone. what is needed is action from us, something that will set about change swiftly and violently to the point that it is beyond anyone's power to stop it. the time has come and i cant just sit on my hands waiting anymore....it's time for a million man smokeout
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It's good that he has to face these questions from us, but the truth is he cant do anything about it.

He cannot just throw down an executive order to legalize marijuana.

the people would should be bombarding with questions everyday are these people-

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These fine folks represent the House Commitee on the Judiciary:Subcommitee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. This is where the decriminalization bill Ron Paul and Barney Frank introduced earlier this year. This bill will stall here if we do not contact these people feverently. It still may, but its an actual chance. stop asking some guy if he would sign a bill that will never see his desk unless we contact these house members.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:39 AM #5
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since these are the kinds of bills this committee passes....

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something tells me they wont just push a weed bill along without us telling them to.
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RON PAUL 2012!! The ONLY candidate who will allow med. marijuana to continue.

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We as a community need to ramp up the questions to Obama at every opportunity we can.
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This is what he said...

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... you know, well, I'll leave it at that.
however he was probably thinking something along these lines

"Well, we'll just wait until the Big Pharma has all their I's dotted and T's crossed...then we'll legalize pot for med use...then a few years later we'll bring on full legalization..."



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It would already be legalized if we could just convince them it would give them the only thing that they care about: more money! All the other stuff is just dust in the wind with our corrupt ass government
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It would already be legalized if we could just convince them it would give them the only thing that they care about: more money! All the other stuff is just dust in the wind with our corrupt ass government
Dude they know how much money its worth, right now its worth billions as they incarcerate growers and tokers daily...only until they can get a hold on it and kick our asses to the curb (growers) it will remain illegal..facts are facts...no other way to really put it...

well I guess you could say if all the potheads joined together grower and tokers alike we may stand a fighting chance, but until that day comes it will be the same old song and dance and until unity brings us together for our common goal we will continue to sit behind our closed doors to toke our sacred herb.
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he is going to want to get re-elected, being pro-weed is not going to help his cause. if he wants to stay in office he must play the game.

that said i dont give a fuck, we are all fucked anyway
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