[smokefrogg]

Originally Posted by Strainhunter

All those manuals are great, there's just 3 problems with them:

A)
No one is gonna read them

B)
If the average person actually IS gonna read them they still wouldn't understand a word!

C)
Regardless of the above it is impossible for the average user to know what actually has been programmed in to a meter.

so the info should not be shared?

i am glad he shared it

[Strainhunter]

Originally Posted by smokefrogg

so the info should not be shared?

i am glad he shared it

You are so awesome!

[spainmedman]

A friend in the electrical supply business told me there is something else that some power companies are going with. It is a digital meter that can be read from a remote sensor just like the smart meter, but it is "dumb". It cannot tell what you have on, or record what times. It is much cheaper for the power companies, and does not have the unnecessary smart stuff.
No links or anything, sorry... but he knows his stuff.

[Strainhunter]

Originally Posted by spainmedman

........

It is a digital meter that can be read from a remote sensor just like the smart meter, but it is "dumb". It cannot tell what you have on, or record what times.
.....

That's correct although those are VERY hard to identify for normal users like you and I.

Maybe smokefrogg can though!

[smokefrogg]

@strainhunter - i'm not trying to be a dick here. just because some folks can't use the information does not mean all folks cannot, i am not a know it all, this is new territory for me too, just trying to get a bit involved and came across a few things that piqued my curiosity, i apologize you don't dig this and will bow out of your thread. peace and love ya'all, didn't mean to offend anyone, sorry

[Strainhunter]

It's all good smokefrogg

The technical stuff in those manuals is something 99% of us can't do a thing with.
It might be interesting reading though.

[smokefrogg]

i can't do much with it either and only understand a fraction of what i have been reading really (lol thought it wouldn't be too bad with me being an i.t. guy, WRONG!), but it does put light at the end of the tunnel for my idea of wishing i could monitor what the smart meter is telling me i am using.

we have been in this house for just over a year,it came with a smart meter, i don't use much power in my grow but man i feel like i'm kind of getting reamed by the power company and my wife gets a bit weird about the high bill when it's a heck of a lot less than buying herbs would be. anyways i would just love a way to monitor what the thing is saying i am using in real time, and bounce that off of what my timers and kill-a-watt says i am actually using. part of me would even like to just shut down that whole area where the grow is, turn everything off, and see if the smart meter is still saying i am using energy, i don't trust the damn thing and am very skeptical that i've been using as much power as it says i have been...man i'm just bitching now, lol it kind of pisses me off

[TripleDraw27]

Hi guys,

My take on Smart Meters is this..

I have lived at the same place for 10years, 2 years ago they installed Smart Meters.

The way I see it is, instead of some Johnny from the Power company going from house to house checking meters, and possibly catching a wiff of something, I now see that same Johnny parked once in awhile at our community parking lot probably checking meters on his laptop. The way I see it is, im not doing some crazy grow....and they are doing me a favor of staying the fuck away from my house.

Sure those meters can tell this and that etc etc...But im no Jorge from Sinola and I am not some commerical guy. I am just a dude who lives his life and enjoys his community.


How many growers have been busted by a NOSE from some dude lurking around a house, opposed to a Smart Meter?

Dont sketch, its a wired world we live in. Just adapt and keep on keepin on.


trips

[GP73LPC]

Originally Posted by Strainhunter

Why are so many "hung up" on spikes?

I thought I already covered well enough it is NOT THE SPIKES which are raising the flags!

It is the excessive usage raising flags.


Not in all states but in some.

And most of us will never know which ones those are.

And by the time we do find out...some will already have gone "down the drain".
Just because "your buddy" has "gotten away" with his crazy electricity bill that doesn't mean it'll work for you.

Originally Posted by Strainhunter

Your "12 hour cycle" is being "interrupted" by PLENTY spikes throughout the day and night.

so heavy usage is a concern and not the fact i have a 600 watt steady usage for 12 hrs every 24 day after day after day (even if there are spikes within that 600 watts)?

seems to me this would be recognizable by a pattern over time...

would it be wiser to run 11/13 or 10/14 maybe to throw that pattern off...?

and definitely when i get in my new place (with a smart meter) i will be running my LED lights the day i move in, so that usage is there from day one... not that 600-800 watts is that much to worry about but this should help as my place is gonna be new with no previous usage history...

thanks for this thread.... just found out smart meters are used here, so when i build i will have no choice...

[Strainhunter]

Originally Posted by GP73LPC

so heavy usage is a concern and not the fact i have a 600 watt steady usage for 12 hrs every 24 day after day after day (even if there are spikes within that 600 watts)?

seems to me this would be recognizable by a pattern over time...

would it be wiser to run 11/13 or 10/14 maybe to throw that pattern off...?

...

I highly doubt you'll ever have a problem running such relatively low wattage no matter which pattern.