no, it's too far I can't see it

[kmk420kali]

Originally Posted by 303hydro

It's some sort of ice mass unit such as square miles...

The point is, IT WILL BE GONE IN LESS THAN 25 YEARS.

Here is a better graph, there is tons of info out there.

So if we are in the heart of Global Warming...why does that chart show the biggest rise since 1995?? The dotted line is just a guess, right??

Yeah, I'm no denier, but that is one crappy graph. If you extended the 'trend' line backwards it might touch another point on the 'recorded' line....that's not so much of a trend.

[DiscoBiscuit]

Those ups and downs are seasonal. The trend is lowering.

Those ups and downs aren't seasonal, there's 5 years between 1995 and 2000 , with a single peak and a single valley (let alone it kinda says 'September average' in really big, bold letters up there). Likewise, that trend line isn't curved to present a lowering trend, it's just a straight line that touches the record on a single point:



Additionally, even if the trend were trending in that direction, at that rate, it wouldn't intersect with the 'recorded' graph at the point of the most recent record. I would be very skeptical of where/whomever that graph came from, regardless of your stance on the issue.

[DiscoBiscuit]

I not referring from winter to spring to summer, etc. I'm talking about the marginal ups and downs that (overall) trend lower. Doesn't have to be a consistent line to plot a trend.

What the straight line predicts is the marginal highs within the overall lowering trend. There's statistical data that represents the blue line and the yellow is projection. It's not really necessary to determine future peaks and valleys when it's gonna be gone before 2050.

Originally Posted by Iron_Lion

I think the north pole is rich in diamonds too, the melting ice just makes all the good stuff easier to get to.

therefor melting ice is a sign that mother nature may not be sitting comfortably for the next few years

[DiscoBiscuit]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

...Additionally, even if the trend were trending in that direction, at that rate, it wouldn't intersect with the 'recorded' graph at the point of the most recent record. I would be very skeptical of where/whomever that graph came from, regardless of your stance on the issue.

I'm not banking on it but science is pretty versed in climate measurement these days. There's nothing in satellite photos that prove otherwise. Alex Jones tries to say that satellite images prove the ice comes back in the winter but scientists say it only get thinner until (sooner than later) we'll have no ice in the summer.

[303hydro]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Those ups and downs aren't seasonal, there's 5 years between 1995 and 2000 , with a single peak and a single valley (let alone it kinda says 'September average' in really big, bold letters up there). Likewise, that trend line isn't curved to present a lowering trend, it's just a straight line that touches the record on a single point:



Additionally, even if the trend were trending in that direction, at that rate, it wouldn't intersect with the 'recorded' graph at the point of the most recent record. I would be very skeptical of where/whomever that graph came from, regardless of your stance on the issue.

I don't think you are reading a graph right.
Here are 6 different analysis .... see a trend?


SOURCE: meted.ucar.edu

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