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Inflorescence Anatomy: bract vs. calyx
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It seems there is a good bit of confusion (or at least disagreement) about usage of “bract” vs ”calyx” (re a collection of “sepals”), with respect to the flowering tissue (inflorescence) of female cannabis plants vs. non-flowering stage of growth [1,2,3]. It's not uncommon for growers [4], and even highly respected cannabis researchers (such as P.G., Mahlburg and T., Hemphill, et al. [5]), to use the term “bract” when referring to a collection of (flowering tissue) “sepals”, enclosing the ovule [6,7]. However, many other academic resources [8,9,10,11,12], incl. academics in the cannabis world (ex., R.C.Clarke [13]), refer to the collection of (inflorescence) sepals as calyx. I use of the term "calyx" when referring to a collection of sepals. Below I edited the pics (text and lines in red), I edited to what I believe is correct, AFAIU. What do others here use, "bract" or "calyx", and why? ![]() (all the red lines and text are my edits) [1] [2] [3] (leaf "stipules", sometimes called bracts) [4] “Marijuana female flower: calyx or bract?” By George Grass (2003) https://www.marioptics.webs.com/calyx.html [5]
[6] [7] [8] https://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/carr/api.htm [9] https://waynesword.palomar.edu/terminf2.htm [10] https://extension.oregonstate.edu/mg/botany/flowers.html [11] https://extension.oregonstate.edu/mg/botany/leaves2.html [12] https://www.cals.ncsu.edu/plantbiolog...a/glossary.htm [13] "Marijuana Botany: Propagation and Breeding of Distinctive Cannabis" By Robert Connell Clarke Ronin Publishing, 1993 ISBN 091417178X, 9780914171782 p. 161 Quote:
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Oh yea, what many cannabis growers call a "pistil" is really the 'stigma-style'. A "pisitil" is a term for the the stigma(s), style(s) and ovule. See the pics above for examples.
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You bring up a topic which is in one of my very first posts here on ICmag. It went pretty much unnoticed.
I once (1998?) was engaged in a huge argument with the ---- dispensery over this because at the time I thought it foolish that they were instructing me to trim off bract leaflets which were laden with the highest density of glandular trichomes. I showed them photos and scientific literature to back my case. At that time they said the calyx capsule was the bract; not in my botany. They and many are in the habit of trimming off the outer (pointy) portion of the floral bracts with scissors (along with other leaves) leaving behing the stubby portion of the bract, attached to the stem which affixes it to the cola stem. I tried pointing out how stupid this is to remove the best part of the bract and leave the shit behind to be smoked and that no indigenous peoples practiced this, to no avail. If they were going to accept our produce, it had to be trimmed this way so it looked pretty. To work around this we dried out the flowers totally to a point where deft fingers could fairly rapidly snap 95% of the bracts off at the stem. We then had more material for extract and they had what the think they wanted.
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The last photo - I dunno! But - Bract? - A modified or specialised leaf. I can see how all the confusion began...
The floral tubes are composed of petals fused together. The part you label bract is a sepal imo. But could easily be argued to be a bract as the definition is so broad. The stigma you point to is imo an anther but that flower is no easy study. Note the floral tubes are not overall - some flowers on that inflorescence lack the fused petals altogether. I'll have a look through what the prof had to say on the subject see if it sheds any more light. I totally agree bract is vegetative (leafy) and calyx is a flower part. Take an acorn, the cupule (cup holding acorn) is a cluster of bracts. The seed (nut, flowering part) itself is a separate thing.
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Here is some info which may help. A couple of pretty decent sites IMO
https://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e02/02e.htm “Inflorescences are arrangements of more than one flower, like bostryx, head, cyme etc. They are modified parts of the shoot with leaves typically reduced to leaflike bracts.” https://waynesword.palomar.edu/terminf1.htm
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"Astrantium major. This species has showy bracts at the base of the umbel. It also has larger sepals than typical for the family. Note the small, pinkish inflexed petals and the inferior ovaries."I used that picture because it showed many different parts of inflorescence. As I'm sure you're aware, but for others reading (I'm sure MM is aware too), the "umbel" is part of "an inflorescence in which a number of flower stalks or pedicels, nearly equal in length, spread from a common center." (dictionary cite), ex., Nerine bowdenii: * https://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/carr/ Quote:
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I'm glad you posted that image because it has more info, and that site is good too. I linked to another page from that site in my first post. It's kind of funny, because when I read "waynesworld" in the URL, I thought "oh, great, this is gonna be a joke" ... and it was far from a joke. To my understanding those flowers form the umbel, in that image.
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I think a lot of the misunderstanding in the cannabis world comes from the misinterpration of (well actually a plethora) of what the flower construct is, due to the use of the word 'bud'. What most refer to as a bud is actually a floral structure or inflorescence comprised of multiple flowers. Dependent upon the genetics of the particular plant and in some respects environmental conditions it presents with a varying density and size of bracts interspersed in the inflorescence. It is my observation that the outer to mid-section of bracts are usually coated in just as high or even higher density of grandular trichomes than the outer coating of the calyx. This outer sheath of the calyx, as you have noted, is even refered to (mistakenly I think) by monitoring officials in the commercial hemp industry (in Canada), as the bracts
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all I've seen about this was a article from mel frank ( yes.. I know mel frank ) very recent article like 1 year old I believe
here it is: if you want a higher res, well IC limits the size of pics, so let me know if you need higher res to me. I don't care. I keep it simple by saying that's a female plant, and that's a male plant. think if you talked to a baby how you would tell it... I find the more scientific I get with plants, the more un-enjoyable my hobby gets, but that's just me Last edited by habeeb; 07-10-2011 at 08:51 PM.. |
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