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09-14-2006, 05:01 AM

Hey all

First off Id like to introduce myself as a newbie here and I must admit I'm quite impressed with the amount of info to be had...Not to mention you peeps willingness to help and share your wisdon

I had this posted in another forum, but since I received no replies I decided to move it here

After going thru the forums, I've decided to try my hand at some hydro...This is my first attempt at hydro after a few disappointing soil grows...My plan is to do something similar to Pipedreams grow, minus the fancy cabinet...Instead I plan on a simple home built box design that will solely be used for flowering...Clone/veg/mother will be done in the open air

Instead of explaining the whole equipment thingy, I'd just like to point out I'll be going with a 150w HPS for flowering...My mother (when I get one)/clone/seedling area will be under 90w blue CFL's...Starting from seed...I'm planning on 3-4 6-qt. bubblers

Since this is my first hydro grow, and starting with bag seed, I will be using GH Flora series on the Lucas schedule...NO other nutes or additives will be used...Wanna keep it nice and simple for the first time...One thing that puzzles me regarding Pipe's grow is that he puts his clones right in with the flowering plants...Which brings me to my questions:

1) How will my clones react to going under the HPS on 12/12?

2) How long should I veg the clones? I figure 2-3 weeks under the CFL's until they are 5-6"...Or can I simply veg them under the HPS at 12/12 and switch nute formula when I decide they are ready to flower

3) How will the clone/seedlings do if I start them in soil then transfer to hydro

4) If I manage only males my first time around, what kind finished product can I expect?

I'm sure I'll post more questions seeing I'm just now putting all the pieces together

Thanks in advance

Pipedream · 09-16-2006, 02:14 AM

1) Cannabis plants will flower at any size or age once put on a reduced lighting schedule. However, a clone first needs to develop a good root-mass before it can be placed on a 12/12 schedule.

2) Once the root-mass is there, how long you veg the clones is totally up to the grower. It depends on how large you want the plant to grow, how many growing tips you desire, and the style of your grow. For instance, some growers go with a true SOG in which each plant only has a single stalk and cola.

3) It will work OK as long as they aren't allowed to stay in the soil too long. The better option would be to root them in rock-wool, pearlite, or other medium.

4) Not too good at all. Male plants have a very very low THC content. If they must be utilized, the best option would likely be ISO hash.

Good Luck and let me know if I can be of further help.

Sleepy · 09-30-2006, 11:21 PM

i love your cabinet!

nice & clean!!

lots of good info here!!

greenz · 10-02-2006, 08:03 PM

great thread i just start my grow cabinet and modeled it after your hope it turns out okay i am a newbie grow and trying to take in all the tips i can get.

Pipedream · 10-03-2006, 07:24 PM

Thanks for the kind words. Let me know if I can be of assistance.

durtymyk · 10-21-2006, 08:22 AM

damn, i was just doing a manuel mix-n-pour grow cube hydro setup, but i think once they ready to flower im going to do a little bubbler set up....the roots are really starting to get crazy, speacially for my M-39 KUSH beast...i am truely inspired...awesome job... ,dirty out

pittbull · 11-03-2006, 05:32 AM

how much can a 5 gal bubbler can yeild if you can only use half of it because the net pot sits halfway down the bucket

Pipedream · 11-03-2006, 06:08 AM

Your yield is not determined by the size of your bucket as long as it is properly maintained. Yield is more determined by genetics, growing height, available light, nutrients, temperatures, CO2 & O2. If all conditions are ideal, you'll get about the same amount from a 1 gallon bubbler as you will a 5 gallon one.

Growing under a 150w HPS a well cared for plant will yield between 1.5 and 2.5 ounces. Increase your light and increase your yield.

pittbull · 11-04-2006, 12:14 AM

thanks pipe dream . i juss added a fan in my closet grow . its takeing up much needed space but it the only thing i got . i got the temp to read around 80 is the hottest it gets . my closet is really 4 foot long but i split it in half with a tarp . looks pretty ghetto but its all i got . you dont think that light is enough to yeild more then 2.5 ounces in a 2x2x5.5 area ? its hps and mh i can make a switch if i wanted to

Twisted · 11-04-2006, 04:39 AM

PipeDream, Nice Cabnet! I have been looking for Green Glass light bulbs, Where could I find them? It's easy to find the cheap paint on green bulbs but I cant find the glass ones.

"The original intent and still main use of these is to hold green bulbs. This is a cool idea I picked up while hanging out at the local Agricultural University Extension Service. They use them to work in the greenhouses during the dark period. Plants can’t utilize true green light in the photosynthesis process, and as a result it won’t disrupt their dark cycle. My job requires me to travel quite a bit and I never know exactly when I’ll be available to tend my garden. The use of green light has given me 24-hour access even during flowering. If you choose to use this technique be sure to get green-glass bulbs not just bulbs with a green coating on them."

09-14-2006, 05:01 AM	#61
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	More nebie questions Hey all First off Id like to introduce myself as a newbie here and I must admit I'm quite impressed with the amount of info to be had...Not to mention you peeps willingness to help and share your wisdon I had this posted in another forum, but since I received no replies I decided to move it here After going thru the forums, I've decided to try my hand at some hydro...This is my first attempt at hydro after a few disappointing soil grows...My plan is to do something similar to Pipedreams grow, minus the fancy cabinet...Instead I plan on a simple home built box design that will solely be used for flowering...Clone/veg/mother will be done in the open air Instead of explaining the whole equipment thingy, I'd just like to point out I'll be going with a 150w HPS for flowering...My mother (when I get one)/clone/seedling area will be under 90w blue CFL's...Starting from seed...I'm planning on 3-4 6-qt. bubblers Since this is my first hydro grow, and starting with bag seed, I will be using GH Flora series on the Lucas schedule...NO other nutes or additives will be used...Wanna keep it nice and simple for the first time...One thing that puzzles me regarding Pipe's grow is that he puts his clones right in with the flowering plants...Which brings me to my questions: 1) How will my clones react to going under the HPS on 12/12? 2) How long should I veg the clones? I figure 2-3 weeks under the CFL's until they are 5-6"...Or can I simply veg them under the HPS at 12/12 and switch nute formula when I decide they are ready to flower 3) How will the clone/seedlings do if I start them in soil then transfer to hydro 4) If I manage only males my first time around, what kind finished product can I expect? I'm sure I'll post more questions seeing I'm just now putting all the pieces together Thanks in advance
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09-16-2006, 02:14 AM	#62
Pipedream Proudly Growing My Own Since 1969 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 759	1) Cannabis plants will flower at any size or age once put on a reduced lighting schedule. However, a clone first needs to develop a good root-mass before it can be placed on a 12/12 schedule. 2) Once the root-mass is there, how long you veg the clones is totally up to the grower. It depends on how large you want the plant to grow, how many growing tips you desire, and the style of your grow. For instance, some growers go with a true SOG in which each plant only has a single stalk and cola. 3) It will work OK as long as they aren't allowed to stay in the soil too long. The better option would be to root them in rock-wool, pearlite, or other medium. 4) Not too good at all. Male plants have a very very low THC content. If they must be utilized, the best option would likely be ISO hash. Good Luck and let me know if I can be of further help. __________________ *"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"* Link To: Pipedream's 150w Tiny Bubbler System Link To: The Ultimate Hash Press Under $20
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09-30-2006, 11:21 PM	#63
Sleepy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Posts: 7,590	i love your cabinet! nice & clean!! lots of good info here!! __________________ Sleepy Test Chemmy Jones Sleepy Tests Jolly Bud from Mountain High Seeds Killer Chem Freebie grow Sleepy Tests OJD...>>>Gangsta Haze *Dead Heads Unite!!* *Come Join Us!!*
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10-02-2006, 08:03 PM	#64
greenz New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1	great thread i just start my grow cabinet and modeled it after your hope it turns out okay i am a newbie grow and trying to take in all the tips i can get.
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10-03-2006, 07:24 PM	#65
Pipedream Proudly Growing My Own Since 1969 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 759	Thanks for the kind words. Let me know if I can be of assistance. __________________ *"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"* Link To: Pipedream's 150w Tiny Bubbler System Link To: The Ultimate Hash Press Under $20
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10-21-2006, 08:22 AM	#66
durtymyk Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 90	damn, i was just doing a manuel mix-n-pour grow cube hydro setup, but i think once they ready to flower im going to do a little bubbler set up....the roots are really starting to get crazy, speacially for my M-39 KUSH beast...i am truely inspired...awesome job... ,dirty out
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11-03-2006, 05:32 AM	#67
pittbull Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 35	question how much can a 5 gal bubbler can yeild if you can only use half of it because the net pot sits halfway down the bucket
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11-03-2006, 06:08 AM	#68
Pipedream Proudly Growing My Own Since 1969 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 759	Your yield is not determined by the size of your bucket as long as it is properly maintained. Yield is more determined by genetics, growing height, available light, nutrients, temperatures, CO2 & O2. If all conditions are ideal, you'll get about the same amount from a 1 gallon bubbler as you will a 5 gallon one. Growing under a 150w HPS a well cared for plant will yield between 1.5 and 2.5 ounces. Increase your light and increase your yield. __________________ *"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"* Link To: Pipedream's 150w Tiny Bubbler System Link To: The Ultimate Hash Press Under $20
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11-04-2006, 12:14 AM	#69
pittbull Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 35	thanks pipe dream . i juss added a fan in my closet grow . its takeing up much needed space but it the only thing i got . i got the temp to read around 80 is the hottest it gets . my closet is really 4 foot long but i split it in half with a tarp . looks pretty ghetto but its all i got . you dont think that light is enough to yeild more then 2.5 ounces in a 2x2x5.5 area ? its hps and mh i can make a switch if i wanted to
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11-04-2006, 04:39 AM	#70
Twisted Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 25	PipeDream, Nice Cabnet! I have been looking for Green Glass light bulbs, Where could I find them? It's easy to find the cheap paint on green bulbs but I cant find the glass ones. "The original intent and still main use of these is to hold green bulbs. This is a cool idea I picked up while hanging out at the local Agricultural University Extension Service. They use them to work in the greenhouses during the dark period. Plants can’t utilize true green light in the photosynthesis process, and as a result it won’t disrupt their dark cycle. My job requires me to travel quite a bit and I never know exactly when I’ll be available to tend my garden. The use of green light has given me 24-hour access even during flowering. If you choose to use this technique be sure to get green-glass bulbs not just bulbs with a green coating on them."
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