[BlazinAzn]

Originally Posted by Red Bear

so I can dry my Ice water Extract in my vacuum chamber?
please elaborate?,
or show me a freeze dryer thats not $4000...
need alternatives to BHO...
thanks

I've heard of cubangrower putting his bubble in a vacuume chamber at 50-55°F for 24 hours. The freeze dryer I have is from harvest right and I'm blessed to be able to use it. I am like most of you, I would never drop 4 grand on a freeze dryer simply for hash purposes. I am just lucky enough that some people I know will let me have access to it any time I'd like to use it.

As soon as my resin is extracted it goes in the freezer immediately after some moisture is blotted out on a cloth towel. The frozen material then goes into the freeze dryer for 24 hours and put into back into the freezer. Once the material is cold enough to work with I use 2 seperate kitchen strainers to microplane with varying with two different screen sizes for a better end product. My tools are frozen while I microplane the frozen hash back onto the parchment. It then goes back into the freeze dryer for 24 hours and is collected in jars and placed into the fridge or freezer to cure but its ready to smoke the second it comes out.

The freeze dryer auto adjusts itself giving more/less dry time depending on how much moisture it detects. Default settings consists of a freeze time of 9 hours and dry time of 7 hours. During the frozen setting temperatures in the freeze dryer drop to -30 - -50°F before the vaccume pump turns on for the drying process and pressure drops below >500mTorr. The plates that sit under the trays heat up and cool down during the entire drying process and you can adjust how high of a temperature they go to and it drops down to -50°F. I keep mine at 50-55°F.

That freeze dryer is definately a game changer. Whole plant fresh frozen extract dried and ready to smoke within 3 days of washing, extracting, and drying.

[BlazinAzn]

73 micron Sour bubble resin heads from ice water extraction.

[BlazinAzn]

Put your resin in some empty tea bags inbetween some parchment paper and rosin press that crap with a hair straightener on its lowest setting. Collect your rosin and enjoy. My lungs won't miss BHO anymore...

[sourpuss]

Originally Posted by BlazinAzn

I've heard of cubangrower putting his bubble in a vacuume chamber at 50-55°F for 24 hours. The freeze dryer I have is from harvest right and I'm blessed to be able to use it. I am like most of you, I would never drop 4 grand on a freeze dryer simply for hash purposes. I am just lucky enough that some people I know will let me have access to it any time I'd like to use it.

As soon as my resin is extracted it goes in the freezer immediately after some moisture is blotted out on a cloth towel. The frozen material then goes into the freeze dryer for 24 hours and put into back into the freezer. Once the material is cold enough to work with I use 2 seperate kitchen strainers to microplane with varying with two different screen sizes for a better end product. My tools are frozen while I microplane the frozen hash back onto the parchment. It then goes back into the freeze dryer for 24 hours and is collected in jars and placed into the fridge or freezer to cure but its ready to smoke the second it comes out.

The freeze dryer auto adjusts itself giving more/less dry time depending on how much moisture it detects. Default settings consists of a freeze time of 9 hours and dry time of 7 hours. During the frozen setting temperatures in the freeze dryer drop to -30 - -50°F before the vaccume pump turns on for the drying process and pressure drops below >500mTorr. The plates that sit under the trays heat up and cool down during the entire drying process and you can adjust how high of a temperature they go to and it drops down to -50°F. I keep mine at 50-55°F.

That freeze dryer is definately a game changer. Whole plant fresh frozen extract dried and ready to smoke within 3 days of washing, extracting, and drying.

that's the way to do it!!!

[Red Bear]

wow, BlaznAzn, thanks. i have never heard of this but im gonna try to freeze my fresh wet bubble with dry ice and toss in my vacuum chamber for a day, see what happens.

i could fit my chamber in my kegerator at 38 degrees F, hmmm

thanks

[BlazinAzn]

No problem. Quality over quantity. That's why full melt goes for more than BHO at most places depending on quality of processing but you can sure bet I will never let go of my melts. This is the first time I've ever microplaned and used a freeze dryer for my bubble and I am amazed and completely satisfied with the results. Pretty soon I'll only be a resin farmer growing for extractions. Next investment is gonna be a walk in freezer to do extractions in .

[myrtyl]

Originally Posted by snacks_latrine

Hey Sam!

Sorry to dredge this up after so long has passed, but your suggestion intrigued me and I can't find any information on it, so I figured I'd go to the source...

I am a Prop 215 patient and do ice water extractions as frequently as I have time. I was working with some fresh frozen material a couple weeks ago and, while the results were absolutely amazing in every respect (taste, melt, effect, etc.) a lot of the product came out in such a sticky, putty-like state that all my normal methods for increasing the surface-to-air ratio to ensure even and effective air-drying proved ineffective. Once air dried, the product still turns to insanely sticky goo after a few seconds of body heat contact. As a result, my sturdiest efforts to pass it through a sieve, a micro plane, even to cut it into small pieces with a knife were unsuccessful. I even went so far as to freeze it, freeze my microplane, and then try to plane it in the freezer. But even the heat from my gloved hand in a cold environment was too much to maintain a workable composition.

So I'm sitting with my patty on ice trying to figure out how the hell to process it without it molding up on me. Then I find your post at the end of this informative thread and go on to look up information on the process of sublimation, which, as I have come to understand it, is the active process in freeze-drying where bringing the material's temperature way down and then decreasing pressure using a vacuum pump causes the frozen water particles to instantly vaporize and be removed from the material.

This seems like a brilliant idea for drying ice water extractions! Compared to air-drying, even in a humidity-controlled environment, it seems like you get a much more complete, consistent drying effect while also maintaining extreme cold to preserve all the volatile terpenes. Surprisingly enough though, I can't really find any information outside of your post that would suggest anyone has actually tried such a method. Do you have experience doing this? If so, how have you found the process and what equipment did you use? Any extra information would be very helpful, as I'm finding basically nothing!

I feel your pain man, I love the idea/taste of fresh frozen bubble but when processing it afterwards it gets so sticky before i can even plane a gram of it. Have you found any alternatives to planing this?

[woolybear]

thanks for the info Azn. 4k wouldn't be that bad if you can finance it...

Not too bad considering I've seen a stainless steel ice washing machine I saw on instagram for 14k.

[BlazinAzn]

Some whole plant fresh frozen unknown outdoor strain I washed and processed ready to go back into the freeze dryer for a 2nd cycle.

[Catfish John]

Hey Blazin, I have heard of micro planing but the freeze dryer is new to me. After shutting down my shatter lab of 2 years I am ready for some new concentrates and I only want to go the solventless route. Thanks for sharing your tips, I cant wait to try some freeze dryed full melt.