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mtbazz · 06-05-2011, 11:22 AM

Took some fresh cuttings yesterday, turned my cloner on that has a heater in it and walked away.

Checked it this morning and the water was literally steaming and scalding. I forgot to put the thermostat in the water at the bottom of cloner so the heating element was cranked all the up.

Clones still look healthy, stems are a little on the soft side though..

Will these end up rooting ya think ?

Stress_test · 06-05-2011, 11:58 AM

I've seen em root after getting pretty hot, but steaming? I dunno, doubt it.

My pump actually creates enough heat that I never needed a heater, but I do have to drop a 2 Liter pop jug of ice in on hot summer days to help keep temps down.

I hate to say it but if it was that hot then I seriously doubt they will root. Usually if they get much over about 90*F they won't take. 80* is about perfect in my areo's.

mtbazz · 06-05-2011, 12:07 PM

thats what i thought...no biggie. nothing that cant be replaced.

SB.J · 06-06-2011, 07:50 AM

once you see any root "bumps" do you hit it with some type of root excell + hygrozyme? or one of the 2? or keep just ph water at 5.8 until transplant?

Stress_test · 06-06-2011, 08:34 AM

Nope. I pop the cuts in and 5 days later I change the water and all the cuts that have an inch or more are plucked and put in 24 oz cups. Everything else stays until the next water change.

I kept wanting to add nutes or some kind of root accelerator, but what I found was that it was always too soon for some of the cuttings. So the only way I could do it was to transfer the plants that show root nubs to another tub. Well now we're talking about growing full fledged Aeroponics, not cloning.
So why mess around with the cloner to start with? Why not just set up an aeroponics grow and root the clones in it?

Well I make hundreds of clones and trade 99% of the clones I start so I stick with what works 99% of the time.

And to be 100% honest: I use Chrystal Geyser natural spring water in my cloners and it Ph's at 7............ That's what my clones get with a splash of H2O2 for 5 days, then a water change. I filled a mini 19 hole cloner the day before yesterday and 5 show "obvious" roots (not just nubs) and 2 have 1/2" or better tonight.

Fuck all that crap about Ph'ing, misting, domes, accelerators and shit with cloning, it's unnecessary. Cloning is the easiest and shortest part of the entire growing process. Keep It Simple Stoners, right? So why complicate something so simple that works 99% of the time?

Low, indirect light and air temps @ about 70* F and water around 80* F is the key to aero-cloners.

People just make cloning more complicated than it needs to be.

mtbazz · 06-06-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stress_test

Fuck all that crap about Ph'ing, misting, domes, accelerators and shit with cloning, it's unnecessary. Cloning is the easiest and shortest part of the entire growing process. Keep It Simple Stoners, right? So why complicate something so simple that works 99% of the time?

Low, indirect light and air temps @ about 70* F and water around 80* F is the key to aero-cloners.

People just make cloning more complicated than it needs to be.

Thats not what I found. I had lousy at pH values above 6.5. Once I dropped the pH down to 5.3 everything was rooting in 7 days.

aligee · 06-06-2011, 11:02 AM

Aerocloner + R/O water ,pump 24/7

roots in 10 days!!!

CoCoColaClassic · 01-22-2017, 09:24 AM

Everything I learned about cloning was from PermaClone and they say the goal is WARM water but the point of diminishing returns in 87 F. I shoot for 85 and get amazing results with their sterile technique.

https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...ns-clones-fail

https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...s-your-answers

https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...nt-a-must-read

This last article is best towards the end when they talk about water treatment.

Granger2 · 01-22-2017, 05:54 PM

If something has root bumps, I go ahead and plant in medium. Works every time. Good luck. -granger

caljim · 01-22-2017, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CoCoColaClassic

Everything I learned about cloning was from PermaClone and they say the goal is WARM water but the point of diminishing returns in 87 F. I shoot for 85 and get amazing results with their sterile technique.

https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...ns-clones-fail

https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...s-your-answers

https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...nt-a-must-read

This last article is best towards the end when they talk about water treatment.

Good links, going to get the old turbo cloner off the shelf and see if I can get it pushing out cuts again. Rockwool is giving me great results, but is a bit more work.

06-05-2011, 11:22 AM	#1
mtbazz Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 839	Water temps too hot in aeroponic cloner Took some fresh cuttings yesterday, turned my cloner on that has a heater in it and walked away. Checked it this morning and the water was literally steaming and scalding. I forgot to put the thermostat in the water at the bottom of cloner so the heating element was cranked all the up. Clones still look healthy, stems are a little on the soft side though.. Will these end up rooting ya think ?
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06-05-2011, 11:58 AM	#2
Stress_test I'm always here when I'm not someplace else Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,527	I've seen em root after getting pretty hot, but steaming? I dunno, doubt it. My pump actually creates enough heat that I never needed a heater, but I do have to drop a 2 Liter pop jug of ice in on hot summer days to help keep temps down. I hate to say it but if it was that hot then I seriously doubt they will root. Usually if they get much over about 90F they won't take. 80 is about perfect in my areo's. __________________ "I would. I'd really like to meet an honest man. But I'd have to lie to him cause I smoke pot." ______________________________ ______ First Outdoor Guerrilla Grow 2011 Understanding Ph. Ingenious $4 Walmart Cloner. SOG's DIY micro-cloning factory tutorial. (Very well illustrated and explained). Handy site for the Gardener (A wealth of information for any gardener). Sometimes when I'm really medicated, I can really crack me up.
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06-06-2011, 08:34 AM	#5
Stress_test I'm always here when I'm not someplace else Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,527	Nope. I pop the cuts in and 5 days later I change the water and all the cuts that have an inch or more are plucked and put in 24 oz cups. Everything else stays until the next water change. I kept wanting to add nutes or some kind of root accelerator, but what I found was that it was always too soon for some of the cuttings. So the only way I could do it was to transfer the plants that show root nubs to another tub. Well now we're talking about growing full fledged Aeroponics, not cloning. So why mess around with the cloner to start with? Why not just set up an aeroponics grow and root the clones in it? Well I make hundreds of clones and trade 99% of the clones I start so I stick with what works 99% of the time. And to be 100% honest: I use Chrystal Geyser natural spring water in my cloners and it Ph's at 7............ That's what my clones get with a splash of H2O2 for 5 days, then a water change. I filled a mini 19 hole cloner the day before yesterday and 5 show "obvious" roots (not just nubs) and 2 have 1/2" or better tonight. Fuck all that crap about Ph'ing, misting, domes, accelerators and shit with cloning, it's unnecessary. Cloning is the easiest and shortest part of the entire growing process. Keep It Simple Stoners, right? So why complicate something so simple that works 99% of the time? Low, indirect light and air temps @ about 70* F and water around 80* F is the key to aero-cloners. People just make cloning more complicated than it needs to be. __________________ "I would. I'd really like to meet an honest man. But I'd have to lie to him cause I smoke pot." ______________________________ ______ First Outdoor Guerrilla Grow 2011 Understanding Ph. Ingenious $4 Walmart Cloner. SOG's DIY micro-cloning factory tutorial. (Very well illustrated and explained). Handy site for the Gardener (A wealth of information for any gardener). Sometimes when I'm really medicated, I can really crack me up.
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06-06-2011, 11:02 AM	#7
aligee Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Westcoast Posts: 1,137	Aerocloner + R/O water ,pump 24/7 roots in 10 days!!! __________________ IG: ali_g_seed_co__
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01-22-2017, 09:24 AM	#8
CoCoColaClassic Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 84	Everything I learned about cloning was from PermaClone and they say the goal is WARM water but the point of diminishing returns in 87 F. I shoot for 85 and get amazing results with their sterile technique. https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...ns-clones-fail https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...s-your-answers https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/new...nt-a-must-read This last article is best towards the end when they talk about water treatment. __________________ ************************** Canna Coco & Aqua EZ-Clone w/ Permaclone collars T5 veg, HPS Bloom Strains: Northern Lights (Sensi) Chocolope (DNA) Dutch Cheese (DP)
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06-05-2011, 12:07 PM	#3
mtbazz Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 839	thats what i thought...no biggie. nothing that cant be replaced.
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06-06-2011, 07:50 AM	#4
SB.J Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 80	once you see any root "bumps" do you hit it with some type of root excell + hygrozyme? or one of the 2? or keep just ph water at 5.8 until transplant?
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01-22-2017, 05:54 PM	#9
Granger2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Easy St. Posts: 4,412	If something has root bumps, I go ahead and plant in medium. Works every time. Good luck. -granger __________________ Fully compliant Medical Patient.
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