[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by Hashmasta-Kut

there's lots of stuff overly safe in there, i dont believe you need to do all of that, are you getting paranoid from heavy use of concentrates?

Old habit from former duties as safety director and as an engineer writing up the operating procedures for new equipment and processes that I designed. What can go wrong, go wrong, go wrong.........................

On the other hand, I retired with no industrial accidents on my personal record, no one was ever maimed or killed on any of my equipment or process designs.

I also managed to lower industrial accidents 72% in the aerospace plant that I managed, by raising my employees awareness and enforcing certain rules.

One employee was horribly killed however, by falling in a 331F aqueous KOH tank designed and built by others. He had been adequately trained and had previously been given a reprimand for climbing up on the tanks, while the lids were open, but chose to ignore input.

He was still alive when we got him out, but is skin and flesh dissolved and washed off with the water stream we were trying to hose him off with and he died before the ambulance got there. He wasn't pretty at that point and my only solace was that he was most likely in deep shock and no longer feeling the pain.

I believe that awareness of the details, makes us all more safety conscious and less likely to get hurt. On the other hand, not everyone places the same value on following the rules. I can only draw attention to ways to get hurt and leave their evaluation and assessment to the individuals.

So to your point bro, nah, I was paranoid before I ever started extracting, if that is what its called, but in my profession, it was considered good judgment. This is a different arena, so I will leave evaluating and accessing if it is paranoia or good judgment up to the individuals reading it.

Peace brother! As with anything I say, take what works for you, and discard the rest!

Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!1

[Gray Wolf]

Oops! Duficate!

[jump117]

Imo its related to the topic

Originally Posted by jump117

Hi phate, evaporating butane near the stove turned on (4:22 - 4:41) (clickable) is dangerous.

PS
The arrow in the quote fails in redirection,
the correct is post #1008 on page 68 in the thread "~BHO LOVERS~"
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...postcount=1009

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by jump117

Imo its related to the topic

PS
The arrow in the quote fails in redirection,
the correct is post #1002 on page 67 in the thread "~BHO LOVERS~"
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....162035&page=67

Excellent points brother Jump! The thermostats on electric resistant heat controls can generate sparks, if they aren't explosion proof. Why I use hot water until the pool has thickened and the boiling stopped.


The video says it all as far as safety un-consciousness. Its all there but the conflaguration.


Locally we recently had a fellow blow up his motel room extracting with butane and another his house. Both were doing stupid things, but it is poisoning the local publics minds about butane extractions in general.


With the aid of LEO and local press, they are coming to envisioning it as akin to a meth lab.


As I sees it, that is not doing any of us any good and the onus falls on us individually to insure we don't add fuel to that fire.


Except for the glory and prestige, getting hurt in the process can be highly over rated as well.

[shmalphy]

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

With the aid of LEO and local press, they are coming to envisioning it as akin to a meth lab.

Other than finished product, please help me distinguish what makes this any different? Making BHO is more like making freebase cocaine (minus the ammonia) making isomerized oil is the exact same process as making meth. Same ingredients, and level of danger to the people around it, and the environment. In any event you are discharging known carcinogens into the environment, and risking an explosion. Wether it's freebase, meth, fentanyl, DMT, or anything else, you are (ostensibly) using a residential area as a clandestine laboratory. It doesn't matter what drug (BHO is NOT medicine) you are producing.

The only difference I see is that meth makes you more alert and BHO make you less alert. Not sure who I would rather have as a neighbor...

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by shmalphy

Other than finished product, please help me distinguish what makes this any different? Making BHO is more like making freebase cocaine (minus the ammonia) making isomerized oil is the exact same process as making meth. Same ingredients, and level of danger to the people around it, and the environment. In any event you are discharging known carcinogens into the environment, and risking an explosion. Wether it's freebase, meth, fentanyl, DMT, or anything else, you are (ostensibly) using a residential area as a clandestine laboratory. It doesn't matter what drug (BHO is NOT medicine) you are producing.

The only difference I see is that meth makes you more alert and BHO make you less alert. Not sure who I would rather have as a neighbor...

I'm accepting your untrue statements presented as facts, as prima facie evidence that this is not an intellectual exchange but you airing your unsupported prejudices.

Point taken, you are against BHO. Thanks for your input!

[jump117]

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I'm kidding. Jump.

[Mia]

BHO,
the new crack cocaine!
LOLOLOL
Crazy story Gray Wolf.(guy falling in tank!)
Shitty, but that's why you don't screw around.
And I don't consider it paranoid. I would call it thorough.
Good advice.

[shmalphy]

I am analyzing the process not the substance. I am also directing my statements at the people who read this site to inform themselves on the subject of BHO. The target audience on this subject is young, pot smokers, not lab technicians.

Just because YOU (grey wolf) are trained and capable does not mean that everyone that reads your "how to safely establish a clandestine lab in your home" tutorial on the web is going to be safe when he tries this at home. Nor will you be there to pick up the pieces when he causes damage from an explosion, or the environmental damage, or the health hazards to everyone.

Your dismissive response seems indicative of your level of respect for others. So does you irresponsibly advocating pollution and methods of possible immolation.

And for the record, coca leaf is not nearly as destructive as the process involved in turning it into a pure smokable form (see richard prior)

BHO is going to make the whole cannabis community look bad each time someone gets hurt or killed.

[hammalamma]

Originally Posted by shmalphy

I am analyzing the process not the substance. I am also directing my statements at the people who read this site to inform themselves on the subject of BHO. The target audience on this subject is young, pot smokers, not lab technicians.

Just because YOU (grey wolf) are trained and capable does not mean that everyone that reads your "how to safely establish a clandestine lab in your home" tutorial on the web is going to be safe when he tries this at home. Nor will you be there to pick up the pieces when he causes damage from an explosion, or the environmental damage, or the health hazards to everyone.

Your dismissive response seems indicative of your level of respect for others. So does you irresponsibly advocating pollution and methods of possible immolation.

And for the record, coca leaf is not nearly as destructive as the process involved in turning it into a pure smokable form (see richard prior)

BHO is going to make the whole cannabis community look bad each time someone gets hurt or killed.

Sounds a lot like that one guy that used to post about keeping records of people getting hurt/killed from bho explosions, man that guy was lame.

On a random note, maybe not, ice wax sucks balls. It's not suitable for dabbing imo, just decent bubble hash.