[710Man]

Originally Posted by SkyHighLer

Stop immediately, you don't have the foresight...

Thanks I figured I would get bashed for coming to the "pros" for tips. I wish people would read when i stated i do most runs outdoors. All I was asking is IF we all can understand how butane is heavier than air and pools, then we can all understand that ventilation can eliminate that pool. I blast using a SS screen with hose clamp when I use a tube, literally right next to the door with the Fridge unplugged, and the fan blowing directly out. Obviously there is a risk for blasting indoors, but I was trying to analyze the risk factor. To be completely honest SkyHighLer you have not a clue about me, so if all you're offering is an opinion like that why waste your time?

[710Man]

Originally Posted by 710Man

Thanks I figured I would get bashed for coming to the "pros" for tips. I wish people would read when i stated i do most runs outdoors. All I was asking is IF we all can understand how butane is heavier than air and pools, then we can all understand that ventilation can eliminate that pool. I blast using a SS screen with hose clamp when I use a tube, literally right next to the door with the Fridge unplugged, and the fan blowing directly out. Obviously there is a risk for blasting indoors, but I was trying to analyze the risk factor. To be completely honest SkyHighLer you have not a clue about me, so if all you're offering is an opinion like that why waste your time?

I want to correct myself, the Fridge was plugged in during my recent blasts. Will unplugging it eliminate the potential spark of the compressor?

[Pangea]

If you want to really correct your self you will stop immediately, otherwise its not if but when we'll be reading about you in the thread below this one titled BHO disasters.

Don't get offended by the curt responses, you're literally playing russian roulette with explosives. People tend to respond strongly against such insane actions.

[710Man]

Originally Posted by Pangea

If you want to really correct your self you will stop immediately, otherwise its not if but when we'll be reading about you in the thread below this one titled BHO disasters.

Don't get offended by the curt responses, you're literally playing russian roulette with explosives. People tend to respond strongly against such insane actions.

I appreciate your response, and I have no qualms stopping indoors as it's not something I need to do, nor want to destroy my house with.

[Pangea]

Good stuff, the first post has some gold that can be often over looked. Even static electricity from your clothes can ignite butane laden air!

[SkyHighLer]

Originally Posted by 710Man

I want to correct myself, the Fridge was plugged in during my recent blasts. Will unplugging it eliminate the potential spark of the compressor?

Your just not ahead of what if, what if, what if something goes wrong...

So you dropped your extraction tube into the evaporating dish which shatters and now you have a heck of a lot of butane vapor pooled low across the floor, how far back into the house is it going to spread before the fan catches up? Or the power goes out, and the butane builds up, got contingency plans??

Most of the old timers here have done the thinking for what it would take to run relatively safely indoors, but we don't promote, or even discuss it much, just because we don't care to have BHOtards risking theirs and others future over it.

[Terpp]

Originally Posted by 710Man

Hey Gray Wolf, New to the site but I have a question regarding my current setup.

I have been doing runs for quite some time, I do them outdoors whenever possible but unfortunately there are times when it is impossible to do so. That being said, I wanted to explain my setup and see what you think. As a disclaimer I would consider myself an experienced blaster. I setup the blast station inside of my kitchen, next to an open door, with a plastic fan blowing air directly out of the door. I only use about three cans per run inside, and i do use 300/325 ml cans. The only things I have plugged in at the time of blast are the fan, and the refrigerator. The refrigerator is close to the door however, and the door blocks the Fridge when it is open. I have done many runs this way and I was wondering if you see any reason to stop. I have read a lot about compressors in regrigerators, I just don't know if I'm using enough butane for concern. Any thoughts?

I remember meeting a gentleman at the SF cup still in bandages around his arms and some around his face.

When I asked him if he was blasting indoors he said: "No, but apparently in the doorway isn't outside either."

Open blasting is very dangerous. If you are going to do it, you will need proper ventilation to blow the gas away from your head.

Always. Always. Open blast outdoors. Never any exception.

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by 710Man

Hey Gray Wolf, New to the site but I have a question regarding my current setup.

I have been doing runs for quite some time, I do them outdoors whenever possible but unfortunately there are times when it is impossible to do so. That being said, I wanted to explain my setup and see what you think. As a disclaimer I would consider myself an experienced blaster. I setup the blast station inside of my kitchen, next to an open door, with a plastic fan blowing air directly out of the door. I only use about three cans per run inside, and i do use 300/325 ml cans. The only things I have plugged in at the time of blast are the fan, and the refrigerator. The refrigerator is close to the door however, and the door blocks the Fridge when it is open. I have done many runs this way and I was wondering if you see any reason to stop. I have read a lot about compressors in regrigerators, I just don't know if I'm using enough butane for concern. Any thoughts?

Solly bro! I don't condone blasting in doors in a residence, under any circumstances. I only condone blasting indoors in a commercial application, where the extraction room meets NEMA 7 Div II requirements, as well as being static free, and ventilated to keep any leakage below 1.4% concentration.

Even though you can often get away with it, one mistake is extremely costly, and a residence exposes other inhabitants, as well as the neighbors.

If you check the sticky on explosions, you will find at least one where a refrigerator was the ignition source.

[JointOperation]

i dont get it.. is dieing.. having your face and upper body melted really worth the few dabs?


the people who blow themselves up.. are ruining it for everyone thats doing it responsibly

[high life 45]

710 man, thanx for posting your question here for all to see. I was reading through your post and noticed You don't have any gas detectors?

They are pretty cheap and even the stores like home depot are carryin them.around my parts.

Read the threads here and you learn alot. There are a good amount of experienced ea here..

I have met two people who were not savvy enough to "blast" outside and they did in fact blow up and receive 3rd degree burn over their entire body. Their situation was much more ventilated than yours.

My friend was blasting in his kitchen and though it was fine, ovens, toasters, heat registers going to the basement where two growrooms were, it was an accident waiting to happen. I simply told them " I will have alot more respect for you if you do this outside" (they didn't have nearby neighbors) I am gonna say the same thing to you,

" I will have alot more respect for you if you do this outside" but even that doesn't mean its safe, there's a link here somewhere about a blaster who was outside and he had an explosion, his elderly neighbor was also outside and fell from the blast, broke their hip, and died in the hospital not to long afterwords.....that is an extremely unfortunate situation.

What if something goes wrong....goes wrong.....goes wrong.... Who lives with you, who lives next door? What are the legal ramifications if you have an unfortunate accident? 50k on bail if you are in Cali.

Be safe, be smart, be aware.