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02-13-2006, 11:30 PM

thanks alot for the explanation
we'll have to try soon

comphashon · 02-14-2006, 06:22 AM

hey bro...ya i think you will turn into a rosin head!!!!and stack up against FMCD...it is FMCD...from lesser quality hash!!!
i know what you mean as far as meathods of delivery...some seem to get you off more and send you higher!!!we will hook up and share a few stories!!!
later
c

02-14-2006, 07:40 AM

Cool, keep postin' pics when U have time......here's a quote (from me) posted on another site. It is a reply as to why I changed my original post to say 'it's basically dry QWISO'......

originally posted by the unknown grower
I was on IC, and Verite was giving me a hard time, saying -'Oh yeah, here we go again, aren't you the same guy who posted that on OG and RMS, leaving everyone in suspense for 3 weeks, only to reveal that it's just dry honey oil?'

So I decided to add to all my 1st posts the fact that it's JUST dry-QWISO...... lol
You know how many people are going to think they can take their oil and 'budder it up'......

Let me illustrate for all who think I'm a 'budder elitist' why budder is a better representation of quality oil.
First of all, remember I am using ISO>>>>

I just made a batch (2 g.) of glass from bottom Chernobyl buds (pea bud), and haven't buddered it up yet, burns good, gets you ripped, tastes alright too. The 20 grams I cooked was probably worth $90.

I then made a batch (2.5 g.) of glass from trim leaf (& shake) from Chernobyl, and it won't budder up at all, burns ok, gets you somewhat high, but tastes like bias-ply. The 2 ounces I cooked was worthless.

AS GLASS, YOU CAN'T TELL THEM APART, THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME

I gave the bias-ply away, it leaves a pile of residue on the blade, and when I say it tastes like bias-ply, I mean it tastes and smells like burning rubber, terrible...... too much plant material/chlorophyl/something.

**blazeoneup** · 02-15-2006, 01:58 PM

Tug what %iso are you using?

02-15-2006, 07:23 PM

99% usually, but after noticing how much was being sold, recently one pharmacy started stocking 100% iso, it was about 15% more expensive than 99%.
I asked the orderer (pharmacist) about it, and he said it's because it takes a lot of effort to get that last 1% of water out of iso, I haven't noticed a difference though.

Verite · 02-15-2006, 10:22 PM

Thats why from a solvent standpoint in the use of MJ theres really no difference between 99% iso and 100% iso. Imo 100% iso from a chemical standpoint is kind of misleading since they are simply adding a drying agent to attempt to pull as much water out of the 99%. I dont think its possible to pull it all out since iso forms an azeotrope* with water at 87.4% alcohol.

* Im also pretty sure that iso forms the same azeotrope relation with cannabis oils [ any oils really ] to the point where regardless of how well you purge it the iso will still be in there because its infused by the azeotrope relation.

Then know that the human liver converts iso into acetone inside the body and I think in the long run that could be a very bad thing to injest.

Iso info
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol

Azeotropic distillation info
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeotropic_distillation

Azeotropic definition info
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeotrope

02-16-2006, 05:00 AM

Wow, thanks Verite.
I had better start wearing gloves when I make budder, the absorption is worse than I thought.

I'm going to start referring to budder as 'partially hydrogenated' honey oil......

headees · 02-16-2006, 09:31 PM

Heres a small amount of budder I made using about 12 grams of Bogs LSD colas. This stuff buddered up very quickly while It was still on the heat, it didnt even need to cool down. It is the most potent smoke Ive ever had, its very similar to 73 FMCD except it is even more pure. I would still probably prefer the solvent free bubble hash though, but this stuff is too strong.

Oh yea this stuff was made from BHO using a super heated water purge, then redissolved in ISO and buddered up. Thanks to TUG and OIL Baron for the info.

02-17-2006, 12:32 AM

Nice lookin dude, I'm impressed!

A friend called last night, I got a little of the Tuna, here's a pic of a 1/2 of the tuna I made (about a gram from a 1/4 oz of bud), some of the best oil I've ever had (haven't buddered it yet)......

While I was out, a stop at a (private) liquor store for some beer rewarded me with a pair of Stella Artois glasses!!!!!!

02-17-2006, 12:51 AM

headees, that's awesome bro

best budder ever TUG? sounds rad.

your buddy is going to budder up a whole bunch of Jimi within the next 24...

the Jimi is undoubtedly the finest strain available down here and makes the finest oil... will be comparing it to QTS's incredible sour diesel bho...

ya'll bee safe

02-13-2006, 11:30 PM	#51
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	thanks alot for the explanation we'll have to try soon
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02-14-2006, 06:22 AM	#52
comphashon Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bring.Cash. Posts: 65	hey bro...ya i think you will turn into a rosin head!!!!and stack up against FMCD...it is FMCD...from lesser quality hash!!! i know what you mean as far as meathods of delivery...some seem to get you off more and send you higher!!!we will hook up and share a few stories!!! later c __________________ Cannabis Rosin(solventless hashoil)
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02-14-2006, 07:40 AM	#53
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Cool, keep postin' pics when U have time......here's a quote (from me) posted on another site. It is a reply as to why I changed my original post to say 'it's basically dry QWISO'...... originally posted by the unknown grower I was on IC, and Verite was giving me a hard time, saying -'Oh yeah, here we go again, aren't you the same guy who posted that on OG and RMS, leaving everyone in suspense for 3 weeks, only to reveal that it's just dry honey oil?' So I decided to add to all my 1st posts the fact that it's JUST dry-QWISO...... lol You know how many people are going to think they can take their oil and 'budder it up'...... Let me illustrate for all who think I'm a 'budder elitist' why budder is a better representation of quality oil. First of all, remember I am using ISO>>>> I just made a batch (2 g.) of glass from bottom Chernobyl buds (pea bud), and haven't buddered it up yet, burns good, gets you ripped, tastes alright too. The 20 grams I cooked was probably worth $90. I then made a batch (2.5 g.) of glass from trim leaf (& shake) from Chernobyl, and it won't budder up at all, burns ok, gets you somewhat high, but tastes like bias-ply. The 2 ounces I cooked was worthless. AS GLASS, YOU CAN'T TELL THEM APART, THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME I gave the bias-ply away, it leaves a pile of residue on the blade, and when I say it tastes like bias-ply, I mean it tastes and smells like burning rubber, terrible...... too much plant material/chlorophyl/something. Last edited by tug; 02-15-2006 at 06:54 AM..
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02-15-2006, 01:58 PM	#54
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02-15-2006, 07:23 PM	#55
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	99% usually, but after noticing how much was being sold, recently one pharmacy started stocking 100% iso, it was about 15% more expensive than 99%. I asked the orderer (pharmacist) about it, and he said it's because it takes a lot of effort to get that last 1% of water out of iso, I haven't noticed a difference though.
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02-15-2006, 10:22 PM	#56
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Thats why from a solvent standpoint in the use of MJ theres really no difference between 99% iso and 100% iso. Imo 100% iso from a chemical standpoint is kind of misleading since they are simply adding a drying agent to attempt to pull as much water out of the 99%. I dont think its possible to pull it all out since iso forms an azeotrope* with water at 87.4% alcohol. * Im also pretty sure that iso forms the same azeotrope relation with cannabis oils [ any oils really ] to the point where regardless of how well you purge it the iso will still be in there because its infused by the azeotrope relation. Then know that the human liver converts iso into acetone inside the body and I think in the long run that could be a very bad thing to injest. Iso info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol Azeotropic distillation info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeotropic_distillation Azeotropic definition info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeotrope __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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02-16-2006, 05:00 AM	#57
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Wow, thanks Verite. I had better start wearing gloves when I make budder, the absorption is worse than I thought. I'm going to start referring to budder as 'partially hydrogenated' honey oil......
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02-16-2006, 09:31 PM	#58
headees Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 663	Heres a small amount of budder I made using about 12 grams of Bogs LSD colas. This stuff buddered up very quickly while It was still on the heat, it didnt even need to cool down. It is the most potent smoke Ive ever had, its very similar to 73 FMCD except it is even more pure. I would still probably prefer the solvent free bubble hash though, but this stuff is too strong. Oh yea this stuff was made from BHO using a super heated water purge, then redissolved in ISO and buddered up. Thanks to TUG and OIL Baron for the info. Last edited by headees; 02-16-2006 at 09:34 PM..
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02-17-2006, 12:32 AM	#59
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Nice lookin dude, I'm impressed! A friend called last night, I got a little of the Tuna, here's a pic of a 1/2 of the tuna I made (about a gram from a 1/4 oz of bud), some of the best oil I've ever had (haven't buddered it yet)...... While I was out, a stop at a (private) liquor store for some beer rewarded me with a pair of Stella Artois glasses!!!!!! Last edited by tug; 02-17-2006 at 03:01 AM..
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02-17-2006, 12:51 AM	#60
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	headees, that's awesome bro best budder ever TUG? sounds rad. your buddy is going to budder up a whole bunch of Jimi within the next 24... the Jimi is undoubtedly the finest strain available down here and makes the finest oil... will be comparing it to QTS's incredible sour diesel bho... ya'll bee safe
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