[rives]

Originally Posted by spunion

Supposedly fluorescent lights do little or nothing for flowering, so I doubt that had much of an impact. My guess is the extra LED was the main factor, in addition to growing experience.

Under the scenario that AK-51 presented, the fluoros probably didn't contribute much (too far away), but whoever told you that fluoros did little or nothing for flowering was incorrect. I have had very good luck with PL-L's in a scrog format, so T5's should be equally effective.

[habeeb]

you guys are gonna like this one going on... haha

I did some autos under a lumigrow, and am finishing some under a GLH led. the problem is it seemed the autos stayed very small ( maybe from the blue light ) and the varying phenos, I had squat, tall, and in-between. and I wasn't running a full house, only some on the side of my veg tent.. so really no GPW with me yet. I do have a full house with some DJ strains under a lumigrow, look out for it in the DJ section in a couple months.

the problem with calculating GPW, is users, style, environment, and lets not forget strain. but any info is better then no info..

would love to see more grows though, as I believe LED is here to stay

[spunion]

Originally Posted by rives

Under the scenario that AK-51 presented, the fluoros probably didn't contribute much (too far away), but whoever told you that fluoros did little or nothing for flowering was incorrect. I have had very good luck with PL-L's in a scrog format, so T5's should be equally effective.

I'm pretty sure I got that from a random grow guide I found online, been reading quite a few of those and honestly half of them are a off I think.

Still don't think fluorescent is a good way to go for flowering, did you even yield 1oz per plant?

Originally Posted by GP73LPC

i agree that experience in training, pruning, etc... does make a difference.

1.18 gpw is real nice. keep up the good work.

Thanks! Before getting a dry weight I didn't want to be overly optimistic, I had pretty much convinced myself that I was going to be pulling off 5-6oz to be on the very very safe side. I didn't want to think I was getting 20oz and pull 10 right? Anyway I was very happy with how it turned out. Anyway, if anybody is interested how it looked, this is basically how things were set up near the end:



You really don't get a sense by looking at that picture how cramped it really was in there. I flipped things into flower way too late, and as a result those lights are pretty much as high as they can possibly be. That's in a 5x5 tent with a 3x3 ebb and flow table. Branches were reaching all the way out to the back and right sides, and stuff had grown underneath the fan and ducting. The 42w CFL on the right was added because things were growing out of the effective footprints of the lights. There were buds over there that were already half developed, already the plant had put energy and time into making, cutting them off would be a waste, but I couldn't really jam them in any closer so I threw that CFL over that particular area to keep them going. I was hoping that even if it couldn't make them gain much more mass then it could at least support them maturing in terms of trichome color and whatnot. The 2ft fluoros were added more or less because I had them and it wasn't going to hurt anything. I'm sure they did help some, to what degree I don't know. This run was in the winter so heat was absolutely not an issue.

Also more on topic:
Like I kind of said before, I think I can do much better than that run as far as g/w. There were a number of mistakes that I made that could have had a big impact on the end result. I had a lot of popcorn bud that just went into the sugar trim bucket for bubble hash. Sugar trim is inevitable, but to me all the light airy popcorn bud that I didn't trim off represents a mistake. Hash is good, but all the energy that the plant put into making those little buds could have been directed towards making the main ones bigger. LST'ing was done too late in the game, near the end I was doing it compltely out of desperation because I didn't have any more vertical space. Earlier, when I realized that thing were going to get way big I disassembled the PVC stand that was holding up my table and built an adjustable stand out of those perforated metal corners right under it, it was kind of tricky. While I was building it the table was just resting on a stack of buckets, I kept having this vision of bumping it and the whole thing tipping over and spilling hydroton all over. I think this run I was really on the ball as far as nute changes and pH adjustments goes. The placement of the plant was not ideal either. The table started off with 6 plants from seeds. I killed 5 and only one finished. After all the males were killed the one was just taking over everything, there was no point in keeping the other females alive because they just couldn't keep up. I could probably have used more fresh air. There was very little fresh air exchange with the room or the tent. I don't have any way to monitor co2, but I'm sure it was pretty low in there as it was an unoccupied room with a door that was almost always closed. Right now I have a 1000w HPS running in my tent. I didn't sell or get rid of my LED units, I just like learning and trying new things.

[rives]

Originally Posted by spunion

Still don't think fluorescent is a good way to go for flowering, did you even yield 1oz per plant?

I wound up with just shy of 1/4 lb (109 grams) from 2 plants under 330 watts (6x55w). I had some pretty serious issues - the clones had root aphids when I got them, and then I tried a just-add-water soil mix that ran out of steam about the 3rd week of flowering. It then took me a while to figure out how to feed them (I use blumats) without overdoing whatever nutrients that were still working in the soil. PL-L's are incredibly bright, 55 watts will give 4800 initial lumens - check out the following link for the "club".

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=132787

To get the thread back on the rails - very nice job, AK-51!

[Addicted2Grow]

Im doing my 4 LED grow now..

My resultat have been anything from 0,8g/w to 1,3g/w all in SOIL and seed grows..

Check my last ww grow..

[GP73LPC]

Originally Posted by habeeb

would love to see more grows though, as I believe LED is here to stay

i'm now watching your kessil grow

and i agree with your statement, as I too believe the LED is here to stay.

i also believe that LEDs will continue to take market share away from HID lighting. LEDs are cost prohibitive for a lot of folks, but as prices come down, more will enter the arena...

[GP73LPC]

Originally Posted by Addicted2Grow

Im doing my 4 LED grow now..

My resultat have been anything from 0,8g/w to 1,3g/w all in SOIL and seed grows..

Check my last ww grow..

hey welcome to the thread Addicted

i used your 360w LED Big Bang thread in my first post. some very impressive GPW numbers you have.

i'm watching the latest WW grow too...

[spunion]

Originally Posted by rives

I wound up with just shy of 1/4 lb (109 grams) from 2 plants under 330 watts (6x55w). I had some pretty serious issues - the clones had root aphids when I got them, and then I tried a just-add-water soil mix that ran out of steam about the 3rd week of flowering. It then took me a while to figure out how to feed them (I use blumats) without overdoing whatever nutrients that were still working in the soil. PL-L's are incredibly bright, 55 watts will give 4800 initial lumens - check out the following link for the "club".

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=132787

To get the thread back on the rails - very nice job, AK-51!

Wow, kinda makes me rethink the use of HID or HO (PL-L isn't HO right?).

Originally Posted by Addicted2Grow

Im doing my 4 LED grow now..

My resultat have been anything from 0,8g/w to 1,3g/w all in SOIL and seed grows..

Check my last ww grow..

Did you grow before using LED? What kind of gpw were you getting before?

[GP73LPC]