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Elemental Values for the CNS 17 line:

All @ 25 ml per gallon

CNS 17 Bloom Soil and hydro

N----P----K----Mg----S----C

152-66-316-38-87-152

CNS 17 Bloom Coco

N----P----K----Mg----S----C

152-66-189-38-87-190

CNS 17 Grow Soil and Hydro

N----P----K----Mg----S----C

229-66-253-38-84-213

CNS 17 Grow Coco

N----P----K----Mg----S----C

229-33-126-38-**-274

** not listed on bottle

CNS 17 RIPE

N----P----K----Mg----S----C

76-166-253-38-38-95

Xare · 08-11-2010, 11:05 PM

None of those are close enough to the Mel Frank Elemental Value goals.

So I decided to see what it would look like if we mixed the Ripe with the Blooms...

/w hydro bloom - 10 ripe to 15 bloom

N 121

P 106

K 290

Mg 38

S 50

C 129

/w coco bloom - 10 ripe to 15 bloom

N 121

P 106

K 215

Mg 38

S 50

C 152

/w hydro bloom - 15 Ripe to 10 hydro bloom

N 107

P 127

K 278

Mg 38

S 58

C 118

/w coco bloom - 15 ripe to 10 coco bloom

N 107

P 127

K 228

Mg 38

S 58

C 133

I think I like the last one the best.

15 ml ripe to 10 ml coco bloom per gallon of water

The Mg is a bit lower then lucas formula but its more then canna and should not cause deficiencies. On the Plus side its lower in N then lucas and has more P and K.

Mob Barley420 · 08-22-2010, 12:14 PM

I'm having issues with Ph's spreadsheet... Do you always need the exact compounds listed in everything? On some bottles it just gives the basic npk weights and so forth. Also, for anyone who has had success getting the same #'s my man Lucas got, do you always check the box "use weights.."? Sorry I'm slow and a nute profile fish. Thanks n keep it green!

HooT · 11-11-2010, 04:13 AM

Before I write a long question, does anyone still answer indepth or help figure things out in this forum?

Thanks
Hoot

Ashtonkusher · 06-20-2012, 11:18 PM

You need more ppm with your GH in flower try using sweet from botanicare @10 ml a gallon don't introduce canna tell about 2 weeks into flower then you can use cal-mag insted of epsom

12-18-2012, 10:34 PM

That's all good...but you can't go off the label. They are guaranteed minimums, and they're rounded off to the nearest integer. This can be a 5-25% error in your ppm. yvw

xeno83 · 01-28-2013, 09:41 PM

Great read. Read the first post several times to try to understand. What I am curious is how you come up with the numbers, what is the equation for the
"Here is PureBlendPro Bloom @ 15ml/gal
129
45
214
26"

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Xare Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 189	Elemental Values for the CNS 17 line: All @ 25 ml per gallon CNS 17 Bloom Soil and hydro N----P----K----Mg----S----C 152-66-316-38-87-152 CNS 17 Bloom Coco N----P----K----Mg----S----C 152-66-189-38-87-190 CNS 17 Grow Soil and Hydro N----P----K----Mg----S----C 229-66-253-38-84-213 CNS 17 Grow Coco N----P----K----Mg----S----C 229-33-126-38--274 not listed on bottle CNS 17 RIPE N----P----K----Mg----S----C 76-166-253-38-38-95 __________________ And thus thou hast the blood of the green lyon, called the Secret Water, and most sharp Vinegar, by which all Bodies may be reduced to their first Matter
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Xare Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 189	None of those are close enough to the Mel Frank Elemental Value goals. So I decided to see what it would look like if we mixed the Ripe with the Blooms... /w hydro bloom - 10 ripe to 15 bloom N 121 P 106 K 290 Mg 38 S 50 C 129 /w coco bloom - 10 ripe to 15 bloom N 121 P 106 K 215 Mg 38 S 50 C 152 /w hydro bloom - 15 Ripe to 10 hydro bloom N 107 P 127 K 278 Mg 38 S 58 C 118 /w coco bloom - 15 ripe to 10 coco bloom N 107 P 127 K 228 Mg 38 S 58 C 133 I think I like the last one the best. 15 ml ripe to 10 ml coco bloom per gallon of water The Mg is a bit lower then lucas formula but its more then canna and should not cause deficiencies. On the Plus side its lower in N then lucas and has more P and K. __________________ And thus thou hast the blood of the green lyon, called the Secret Water, and most sharp Vinegar, by which all Bodies may be reduced to their first Matter
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Mob Barley420 New Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 19	I'm having issues with Ph's spreadsheet... Do you always need the exact compounds listed in everything? On some bottles it just gives the basic npk weights and so forth. Also, for anyone who has had success getting the same #'s my man Lucas got, do you always check the box "use weights.."? Sorry I'm slow and a nute profile fish. Thanks n keep it green!
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Ashtonkusher New Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3	You need more ppm with your GH in flower try using sweet from botanicare @10 ml a gallon don't introduce canna tell about 2 weeks into flower then you can use cal-mag insted of epsom
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xeno83 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 54	Great read. Read the first post several times to try to understand. What I am curious is how you come up with the numbers, what is the equation for the "Here is PureBlendPro Bloom @ 15ml/gal 129 45 214 26"
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