My organic collection of nuggetry - Page 15 - Grow Diaries - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

mad librettist · 06-08-2011, 04:46 PM

Quote:

but if you can transplant the plant before it's completely rootbound and still get a much denser root system is that not peaking the plants performance?

nope, to get peak performance, watch a plant with unlimited root space, perfect supporting cast, even and adequate moisture, aeration, etc...

limit root space and you will limit performance.

if you are transplanting so early that the pot is not starting to fill, isn't that just a stressful way to simulate not transplanting? the real deal will be better.

soil margin · 06-09-2011, 05:11 PM

Hey mad while were on the topic of clover, when/how do you 'inoculate' your containers with the clover? I understand the concept behind it but how do you actually go about doing it?

mad librettist · 06-09-2011, 05:19 PM

the timing still needs perfecting.

ideally, I would have a place outside where I could establish the clover for a couple months, mow, and put in a cutting. But all i really have is LED veg rooms.

under a scrog, the clover dies off. I am not sure it is established enough to come back, so I am spreading seed about 2 weeks from harvest. I can let it grow 2 more weeks after that before installing a cut. When the cut goes in, it takes maybe 2 weeks before the clover gets shaded in the center. I pile my mulch there, and have the clover around it.

it's a semi perpetual mod scrog, but I am thinking of ditching the scrog to get light down below.

vStagger Leev · 06-13-2011, 01:34 AM

Mad LIB, you've got insane amounts of info my friend, it's good to have you on this site. Most of the shit I know I dont even know how to put into words cause i'm kind of a stoner!! I do know how to explain this "Grape" plant at 8 weeks though. I've been growing this lovely lady for 3 years now and this is the biggest plant i've ever grown of her. First time in a 7gal air pot, and i'm guessing i'll get maybe over a QP from her. I usually only coax 3 oz's MAX from this plant. The smell is like grapes covered in skunk piss. Tastes like candied sour grapes with a nice skunky finish.
A nice long cure on these nugs really bring out a skunky skunky skunky grape smell that's very...well...stinky and amazing. i'm talkin like a nice long two month cure on this plant is when you will get the full funk from her. The high is somewhat mild for what i prefer but a great daytime smook, mood enlightening and spiritually lifting smoke. It's my lady's favorite smoke cause she can still function on it...were as i tend to go for the diesels all day! I do love smoking this herb, it has many fine qualities jsut not a yielder by anymeans, i'm guessing she would do amazing in a hydro or DWC setup.

I think i rememberd everything i was going to say...

heres some grape photos!

vStagger Leev · 06-13-2011, 01:36 AM

oh yeah, flushed for 2 weeks water ph'd at 6.0 peace and love all, Stagger

vStagger Leev · 06-13-2011, 06:28 AM

Pretty baked right now and dont have much to say but heres my PD x LB at week 3.5 and is smelling like that purple funk with lemons and diesel, lots of resin production! I'm liking were this lady is going right now. The clone in veg I have of her has resin all over the stems and leaves already and she's only 3 weeks into veg and stinks like skunky purple funky. Stoked on these genetics and i'm glad they came my way. Peace and love all, Stagger

Dudesome · 06-13-2011, 12:04 PM

dam, stagger, im baked too, man!

Dudesome · 06-13-2011, 12:05 PM

nice work btw xD

mad librettist · 06-13-2011, 04:42 PM

outstanding work stagger!

I'm thinking those 7 gallon airpots are introducing you to the world of having more soil than you "need". And you have obviously noticed that the plant does not waste the extra space, or need time to "fill the pot".

Not sure how that one got started, since it would mean the smallest, slowest plants of all would be outdoor plants with even more room to grow. And I have never, ever seen plants as big inside as are possible outside. There is also no "dead spot" under outdoor plants.

Th other Madlib just harvested 2/3rds or so of his purple mandala 1. looks like about a QP so far. The keeper should come in at about a half. Pretty sure the skunkmans will both yield less than either of the mandalas, but if he went with just the keeper he'd be close to 2lbs for the cab. So he's not doubling your yield from a 7 gal by doubling the volume (#15 smart pots), but there i definitely a relationship between max yield and soil volume. If I really dial his garden in the relationship will be more clear.

Just to make my info useless though, he has have switched to the 600w MH for the summer, and the cab is being changed around to accommodate some legal food/ornamental crops.

06-13-2011, 05:18 PM

Hey stagger, still rockin' in here!

Just wanted to stop in and say thanks. You convinced me to order a pack of SLH with the tooth drop today!

I'll be looking forward to the shots of organic sweet tooth nuggetry!

Cheers

06-13-2011, 01:34 AM	#144
vStagger Leev Cannaseur Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pacific Wonderland... OMMP compliant Posts: 2,814	Grape-week 8 Mad LIB, you've got insane amounts of info my friend, it's good to have you on this site. Most of the shit I know I dont even know how to put into words cause i'm kind of a stoner!! I do know how to explain this "Grape" plant at 8 weeks though. I've been growing this lovely lady for 3 years now and this is the biggest plant i've ever grown of her. First time in a 7gal air pot, and i'm guessing i'll get maybe over a QP from her. I usually only coax 3 oz's MAX from this plant. The smell is like grapes covered in skunk piss. Tastes like candied sour grapes with a nice skunky finish. A nice long cure on these nugs really bring out a skunky skunky skunky grape smell that's very...well...stinky and amazing. i'm talkin like a nice long two month cure on this plant is when you will get the full funk from her. The high is somewhat mild for what i prefer but a great daytime smook, mood enlightening and spiritually lifting smoke. It's my lady's favorite smoke cause she can still function on it...were as i tend to go for the diesels all day! I do love smoking this herb, it has many fine qualities jsut not a yielder by anymeans, i'm guessing she would do amazing in a hydro or DWC setup. I think i rememberd everything i was going to say... heres some grape photos! __________________ "It will take allot more than words and guns...a whole lot more than riches and muscles....the hands of the many must join as 1, and together we will cross the river." Puscifer https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=210839 My 4000W multi strain grow https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=290237 <--- My 6000w E-Papillon grow!
	Quote

06-13-2011, 01:36 AM	#145
vStagger Leev Cannaseur Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pacific Wonderland... OMMP compliant Posts: 2,814	moooooooooore graptastic yum yum oh yeah, flushed for 2 weeks water ph'd at 6.0 peace and love all, Stagger __________________ "It will take allot more than words and guns...a whole lot more than riches and muscles....the hands of the many must join as 1, and together we will cross the river." Puscifer https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=210839 My 4000W multi strain grow https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=290237 <--- My 6000w E-Papillon grow!
	Quote

06-13-2011, 06:28 AM	#146
vStagger Leev Cannaseur Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pacific Wonderland... OMMP compliant Posts: 2,814	Purple Diesel x Lambsbreath Pretty baked right now and dont have much to say but heres my PD x LB at week 3.5 and is smelling like that purple funk with lemons and diesel, lots of resin production! I'm liking were this lady is going right now. The clone in veg I have of her has resin all over the stems and leaves already and she's only 3 weeks into veg and stinks like skunky purple funky. Stoked on these genetics and i'm glad they came my way. Peace and love all, Stagger __________________ "It will take allot more than words and guns...a whole lot more than riches and muscles....the hands of the many must join as 1, and together we will cross the river." Puscifer https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=210839 My 4000W multi strain grow https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=290237 <--- My 6000w E-Papillon grow!
	Quote

06-13-2011, 12:04 PM	#147
Dudesome Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Outer space Posts: 1,086	dam, stagger, im baked too, man! __________________ Just so that you know, that's my A masterbaking organic joyrider at your service. "Everyone is a critic" Jim Raynor
	Quote

06-13-2011, 12:05 PM	#148
Dudesome Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Outer space Posts: 1,086	nice work btw xD __________________ Just so that you know, that's my A masterbaking organic joyrider at your service. "Everyone is a critic" Jim Raynor
	Quote

06-09-2011, 05:11 PM	#142
soil margin Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sunshine and Lollipops Posts: 809	Hey mad while were on the topic of clover, when/how do you 'inoculate' your containers with the clover? I understand the concept behind it but how do you actually go about doing it?
	Quote

06-09-2011, 05:19 PM	#143
mad librettist Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,120	the timing still needs perfecting. ideally, I would have a place outside where I could establish the clover for a couple months, mow, and put in a cutting. But all i really have is LED veg rooms. under a scrog, the clover dies off. I am not sure it is established enough to come back, so I am spreading seed about 2 weeks from harvest. I can let it grow 2 more weeks after that before installing a cut. When the cut goes in, it takes maybe 2 weeks before the clover gets shaded in the center. I pile my mulch there, and have the clover around it. it's a semi perpetual mod scrog, but I am thinking of ditching the scrog to get light down below.
	Quote

06-13-2011, 04:42 PM	#149
mad librettist Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,120	outstanding work stagger! I'm thinking those 7 gallon airpots are introducing you to the world of having more soil than you "need". And you have obviously noticed that the plant does not waste the extra space, or need time to "fill the pot". Not sure how that one got started, since it would mean the smallest, slowest plants of all would be outdoor plants with even more room to grow. And I have never, ever seen plants as big inside as are possible outside. There is also no "dead spot" under outdoor plants. Th other Madlib just harvested 2/3rds or so of his purple mandala 1. looks like about a QP so far. The keeper should come in at about a half. Pretty sure the skunkmans will both yield less than either of the mandalas, but if he went with just the keeper he'd be close to 2lbs for the cab. So he's not doubling your yield from a 7 gal by doubling the volume (#15 smart pots), but there i definitely a relationship between max yield and soil volume. If I really dial his garden in the relationship will be more clear. Just to make my info useless though, he has have switched to the 600w MH for the summer, and the cab is being changed around to accommodate some legal food/ornamental crops. Last edited by mad librettist; 06-13-2011 at 04:54 PM..
	Quote

06-13-2011, 05:18 PM	#150
LouDog420 Guest Posts: n/a	Hey stagger, still rockin' in here! Just wanted to stop in and say thanks. You convinced me to order a pack of SLH with the tooth drop today! I'll be looking forward to the shots of organic sweet tooth nuggetry! Cheers
	Quote