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AGBeer · 04-20-2011, 03:33 AM

https://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/...ant_be_drug_cz

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It's hard to imagine a worse job than defending the drug war every single day, and it looks as though Gil Kerlikowske has had about all he can take:

President Barack Obama‘s drug czar is among the contenders to become the first Chicago police superintendent in Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel‘s administration, the Chicago News Cooperative has learned.

Gil Kerlikowske, whose formal title is director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, met last week with Emanuel in Chicago and was in town again over the weekend for an interview with the police board, sources told the CNC. (Chicago News Cooperative)

This could make for an early end to Kerlikowske's term as head cheerleader for the U.S. War on Drugs, but it isn't hugely surprising. He struck me as a rather reluctant drug czar, willing to read the script, but uninspired when it came to the dirty game of D.C. drug war politics. I'm tempted to speculate that he never fully appreciated the extent to which the job simply involved performing public relations duties as Americans grow increasingly disgusted with everything that office stands for.

His recent clash with the Seattle Times over a marijuana legalization editorial made for some pretty embarrassing press and really cemented the already well-understood nature of the drug czar position as basically a cranky government stooge who wags his finger at proponents of policy reform. It's not glamorous work, but worse, it isn't even important in any of the ways that someone like Kerlikowske would want it to be. You don't get to fix or change anything, so unless you love the drug war exactly the way it is, the job is utterly unrewarding.

If Kerlikowske does move on, it will be the second high-ranking departure from ONDCP under Obama, and it should raise new questions about what the hell actually goes on over there.

CannaBunkerMan · 04-21-2011, 12:51 AM

The problem with getting rid of jack-ass politicians is that you never know if the next one will be even worse.

trichrider · 04-21-2011, 03:24 AM

how could it get worse than this administration?

i was glad to hear Gil wants out, he most certainly was caught up in the deceit. from what i learned of him, he was fooled by Nobama saying there would be change...

wtf. this administration is worse than Nixons'.

Aksala · 04-21-2011, 09:26 AM

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how could it get worse than this administration?

i was glad to hear Gil wants out, he most certainly was caught up in the deceit. from what i learned of him, he was fooled by Nobama saying there would be change...

wtf. this administration is worse than Nixons'.

You don't think the feds saying they will lay off the growers following their states laws was a change?

Don't hate just to hate man...

Change takes time...and its moving in the right direction...imo...

When I first got my license I was actually pretty paranoid about the whole federal law vs state law crap....and knowing that my puny little 5x5 grow area with 1 1000w light won't be causing me to get into trouble makes me feel better.

So there has been some change....

Ya its not perfect but still...its gettin there.

04-21-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aksala

You don't think the feds saying they will lay off the growers following their states laws was a change?

Don't hate just to hate man...

Change takes time...and its moving in the right direction...imo...

When I first got my license I was actually pretty paranoid about the whole federal law vs state law crap....and knowing that my puny little 5x5 grow area with 1 1000w light won't be causing me to get into trouble makes me feel better.

So there has been some change....

Ya its not perfect but still...its gettin there.

I agree. There have been huge strides taken in the past few years under this administration. Easily the biggest steps in any living persons lifetime. I'm not saying this is because of this administration, but more likely despite of. Say what you will about following through, but Obama's little memo about not attacking people following state law has empowered a lot of people. Like Aksala, that little memo helped people feel a great deal of legitimacy and the whole counter culture of marijuana users and growers has become far more mainstream.

I think yours is a crap attitude trikerider. you seem like a good guy, but you may want to rethink that comment as it makes you look like a snot-nosed kid.

[pipedream] Maybe Obamah told Gil his job was going to be eliminated and he better put the feelers out? [/pipedream]

This is good news, though the point that the next guy could be worse is a good one. Lets hope we see the light someday soon. Uruguay, Spain, Brazil, Jamaica... the tide is turning.

dexter840 · 04-21-2011, 11:45 PM

so explain to me again what the obama administration has done for marijuana???

AGBeer · 04-22-2011, 01:38 AM

I cant necessarily give them 'credit' but they are one of the first mouthpieces that have discussed it on more than one occasion. Sure 98% of it may have been bullshit, but its that 2% that we grasp on to and keep the momentum rolling.

sunnydog · 04-22-2011, 02:05 AM

How many of y'all lived through the 80's??

SD

AGBeer · 04-22-2011, 02:11 AM

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How many of y'all lived through the 80's??

SD

LOL My adolescence was in the 80s. I was a part of the 'DARE' and 'Just say N2O' and the 'This is your brain' generation.

I must say, it did pique my curiousity quite a bit

elfstone · 04-22-2011, 03:28 AM

I saw my first government anti-psychedelic film in 1968, as a freshman in a rural high school. I knew they were lying about Vietnam, and I figured they were lying about psychedelics. The film awakened the irrepressible conviction that this was an area I had to explore first hand. Before I embarked on this spiritual quest, I read all the scientific literature I could lay my little mitts on, as well as the Alpert, Huxley, Leary, Lilly, Tom Wolfe books, before the spiritual call from my soul to the Universe resulted in abundant manifestations of the Moksha medicine. I learned that the government has a vested interest in keeping us all from seeing behind the curtain of their deception. Over the past 43 years, nothing has changed. And let's face it, nothing has changed since governmental authority has been created as an instutiom (as Phillip K. Dick states in VALIS, "Empire never ended"). As an attorney once said to me, "Don't forget. You're dealing with the government. Same old sh__, new flies.". Only way to change it is to stand up to it with truth in our hearts and minds.

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elfstone Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 114	I saw my first government anti-psychedelic film in 1968, as a freshman in a rural high school. I knew they were lying about Vietnam, and I figured they were lying about psychedelics. The film awakened the irrepressible conviction that this was an area I had to explore first hand. Before I embarked on this spiritual quest, I read all the scientific literature I could lay my little mitts on, as well as the Alpert, Huxley, Leary, Lilly, Tom Wolfe books, before the spiritual call from my soul to the Universe resulted in abundant manifestations of the Moksha medicine. I learned that the government has a vested interest in keeping us all from seeing behind the curtain of their deception. Over the past 43 years, nothing has changed. And let's face it, nothing has changed since governmental authority has been created as an instutiom (as Phillip K. Dick states in VALIS, "Empire never ended"). As an attorney once said to me, "Don't forget. You're dealing with the government. Same old sh__, new flies.". Only way to change it is to stand up to it with truth in our hearts and minds.
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