Thanks for the interest and apologies for not updateing sooner , has not gone too well so far and am at a loss as to exactly why , seem more sensitive than anything grown so far.
May be some trace defficiency , hitting them with seaweed , epsom showed no improvement and there is no root infestation , a few mites and a lot of predators.
Three like the one on the right , slow vegging and hard to clone but looking healthy now.
Six clinging to life like the one to the left , initial clones failed and barely enougth material for a second try yet.
On a more positive note , the fat crinkly one rooted eventually and is female , very distinct odour and by far the most vigorous from the pack , the mother will be flowered out in a week or so and looks to be worth the wait.