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Old 08-02-2013, 12:31 AM #411
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Jacks Classic does just as good as anything I've tried when I first started indoors I bought the whole line of technaflora, then I gave AN a shot, then Lucas I'm like shit this is just as good then I see a few guys using Jacks Classic shits cheap almost like miracle grow. but the nutrients are the same it has everything you need and does just as good if not better then them bullshit cannabis specific nutes.
Jacks is also some of the cleanest plant food on the planet.
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Jacks is also some of the cleanest plant food on the planet.
How so? Can you provide evidence? I had no clue you were on these forums. I'm really not a fan of your posts on rollitup so I apologize if I seem demanding but I'm going to call you out for thorough discussions on any posts of yours I come across. At the very least it will add to the threads and ensure nobody is being mislead.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:17 AM #413
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How so? Can you provide evidence? I had no clue you were on these forums. I'm really not a fan of your posts on rollitup so I apologize if I seem demanding but I'm going to call you out for thorough discussions on any posts of yours I come across. At the very least it will add to the threads and ensure nobody is being mislead.
Yes, I can provide evidence but with that piss-poor attitude of yours I'm going to let you find it yourself. Good luck!
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Yes, I can provide evidence but with that piss-poor attitude of yours I'm going to let you find it yourself. Good luck!
I don't plan to use Jacks anyway so I take your claim as invalid since no evidence was provided. I was curious to know how fertilizers can be "clean" and what kind of a claim that even is. Like I said, if you're going to make comments you best be ready to support them. The last thing this forum needs is to be just like all the others, full of pricks who intentionally mislead inexperienced growers.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:40 PM #415
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I don't plan to use Jacks anyway so I take your claim as invalid since no evidence was provided. I was curious to know how fertilizers can be "clean" and what kind of a claim that even is. Like I said, if you're going to make comments you best be ready to support them. The last thing this forum needs is to be just like all the others, full of pricks who intentionally mislead inexperienced growers.
Do you know what heavy metals are? I'd suggest Google.
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Do you know what heavy metals are? I'd suggest Google.
I'll assume you're referring to arsenic which is the most common heavy metal I've heard of that is sometimes present in nutrients we buy and feed our plants. Iron wouldn't make sense simply because plants utilize it as long as it isn't excessive. If you are referring to arsenic or other toxic metals (aluminum, mercury, etc.) than it would only be right that you had a source of the full blown chemical analysis of Jack's tested in a laboratory setting, or a governmental website with the guaranteed analysis that accounts for the heavy metals aforementioned. In either case, feel free to post your source proving that Jack's is a "clean" product as you put it. Otherwise, no sane person should take that claim as anything other than hogwash.
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Ladies and gentleman, and the one person that didn't find my previous comment helpful, I'd like to expose homebrewer for who he really is. First he insults my intelligence by mocking me about learning what heavy metals are, then he fails to provide any sources for his erroneous claim. Well, I took the liberty of getting the source myself just to prove a point of why I went at this guy so hard. Here you go community:

https://apps4.cdfa.ca.gov/fertilizerproducts/

Please pay attention to the heavy metal analysis.

Homebrewer, you will not ruin these forums with misinformation for as long as I'm around.
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I can see that the link I provided doesn't go to it directly. Under "firm name" you must select "J R PETERS INC" and click next. When the page comes up scroll to the bottom to find the Jack's Classic All-Purpose Fertilizer 20-20-20 and click on it.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:56 PM #419
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Ladies and gentleman, and the one person that didn't find my previous comment helpful, I'd like to expose homebrewer for who he really is. First he insults my intelligence by mocking me about learning what heavy metals are, then he fails to provide any sources for his erroneous claim. Well, I took the liberty of getting the source myself just to prove a point of why I went at this guy so hard. Here you go community:

https://apps4.cdfa.ca.gov/fertilizerproducts/

Please pay attention to the heavy metal analysis.

Homebrewer, you will not ruin these forums with misinformation for as long as I'm around.
Well you found one link (the state of Oregon also tests agricultural products) but you clearly have no idea what you're looking at.

Take for example the mercury reading of 4.1e-005, do you know how to read that number? Do you know the difference between the heavy metals that you want in your plant food and the ones that you do not? Do you know the acceptable levels of 'bad heavy metals' that plant foods are allowed to contain? Do you know how states came up with those 'safe ranges'?

You've got a lot of learning to do, best of luck! Might I suggest you fix the bruise on your ass first?
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Well you found one link (the state of Oregon also tests agricultural products) but you clearly have no idea what you're looking at.

Take for example the mercury reading of 4.1e-005, do you know how to read that number? Do you know the difference between the heavy metals that you want in your plant food and the ones that you do not? Do you know the acceptable levels of 'bad heavy metals' that plant foods are allowed to contain? Do you know how states came up with those 'safe ranges'?

You've got a lot of learning to do, best of luck! Might I suggest you fix the bruise on your ass first?
The answer is yes to all of your questions. The only thing I don't know are the acceptable levels of heavy metals and that's because I don't work in the agricultural industry. So far all you do is wuestion my intelligence. Just to let you know I've attended a top 20 university in the nation studying a biological sciences degree. If there is anyone that needs to learn anything its you. Again, don't come at me like I know nothing but if I make a claim I'm open to anyone who calls me out on it. As far as I'm concerned you made no effort to "educate" me on the topic and resorted to insults. If you don't know who spurr is I suggest reading his posts to see how its done.
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