[MileHighGuy]

I've used the Lucas Formula in the past and LOVE it for it's simplicity, but just like many others... I wondered if there was more, or if it's all hype.

My roommate had a buddy using advanced with excellent results, and wanted to purchase ALL the nutrients... His money, How could I say no.

Now, a year later, Advanced didn't BLOW me away with 10 times the yield or anything crazy, So, I want to calculate the difference, if any.

I'm having some Trouble deciding how exactly I want to compare.

So let me tell you the setup and my plans, I will be starting this week, and want to make sure all is done correctly.



I will be running three clones in Modified GH waterfarm buckets.

Each bucket will stand alone, I have drilled more holes in the top bucket and added a 4" flat disc Airstone.

The clones are almost ready for transplant, I will be running Sweet Tooth from a local Dispensary.

1 Bucket - Lucas Formula (Maxibloom)
2 Buckets - Advanced Nutrients

This is where I need some help.

I typically use hygrozyme and great white with my Lucas then add kool bloom, should I continue this... or JUST use the Lucas formula and nothing else?

The Advanced lineup:

VEG:

Sensi A
Sensi B
Mother Earth Tea
H2
F1
B-52
Voodoo Juice
(I use Great White instead of the Scorpion, Piranha and Tarantula)
(I use Hygrozyme instead of Sensizym)
CalMag
Was thinking about adding a Silica Blast like Rhino Skin

FLOWER:

Connoisseur A
Connoisseur B
Mother Earth Tea
H2
F1
B-52
Hygrozyme
Great White
CalMag
VooDoo Juice
Bud Candy
Big Bud
Overdrive
Final Phase


If Lucas comes even close, I'm going right back, all this expense and mixing is a huge pain...

Fuck, I had to go look at all my bottles to remember what I was using.










I want to make this Legit, so any advice would be awesome.

I will be designing my exact feeding schedule so that I can post it on here.

[exploziv]

any updates?

[Dreamz_Of_Green]

im down to watch this ...i just ran the lucas formula on maxibloom from GH and had wonderful results

I think Lucas will hold it's own, and I also think the Waterfarm with the lucas will give you the least problems.
I've been running the Lucas formula for years. And though I've strayed, I always find myself going back
Let me shut up now and take a seat

[stoney917]

great comparrisson been wonderin if all the bottles i got are nessessary... i started with like 21 or some shit...now eliminating them slowly... tip for ya-b52 and budcandy do not mix well in flower....use b52 and voodoojuice the 1rst 2 wks of flower then eliminate both and rock the budcandy....

[RubeGoldberg]

I'd give AN tech support a call, they have really wierd hydro feeding guidelines that arent on their website

[stoney917]

im on the phone with deeana bout once a wk goin over there changes ..... do not follow the listed directions unless ya wann rock at 7000ppms..... i basically use the conni at 2-4ml per gallon not lt as base then tweek shit according to plant/strain needs with the additives....in my dwcs and rdwc.... im not gonna get to detailed since none of us even no if he is still doin this and i doubt he in flower yet neway but if ya need some more info holla...

[RubeGoldberg]

AN Actually goes weirder than that, the guidelines usually peak at around 1600 for medium feeding, but in a hydro system that recirculates their tech support will tell you to divide that number by 4 or 5 so you're running well under 1000 ppm all the time

[MileHighGuy]

Seriously.... this is crazy, there was no notification that I got approved for this thread...

I submitted my post and it wasn't up here forever. I just figured I was denied and would Not be allowed to run this thread. Since I wasn't waiting for an answer I have already deviated from the plans and blew the test.

Here are my non scientific findings:

By no means was this a proper test, If I had known I was approved for this grow log I would have spent much more time and effort documenting.

Anyways, Long story short I kept having major issues with the Advanced (not PH perfect) and it was really causing some funky growth on the two soil plants and the one Hydro that I was going to test.

Out of the three hydro, 2 were running lucas and the one with Advanced was doing terrible, brown roots, growth problems, curling leaves and what looked to be mag. def. but I was checking PH and PPM daily.

I switched to lucas and the plant exploded with growth, the roots whitened up (h202) and everything is much better now.

I even switched the two I have in soil and now they are doing MUCH better, no more problems.

Besides the fact that Lucas is ten times easier to understand, mix, use, top off.... etc. It just plain works.

That being said, I'm still planning on running some experiments with the Advanced Nutrient additives that I have since I have them.

It could be that I just completely suck at growing, but I won't be recommending advanced to anyone.


Sorry Guys I totally blew it on the experiment.

I've since built a RDWC system and won't be doing this test again because I'm only going to use lucas.

[MileHighGuy]

Oh, and for those that suggested not following the Recipe on the back of the bottle....

Don't worry, my problems were not caused by this, I'm well aware of How Advanced makes a label that would kill your plants... cause I've almost done it.

I've even called advanced... no answer... no answer... WTF... finally days later I got someone to talk to, they were very helpful and I followed their advice.... after I thought I had "Figured Advanced Out" I did this grow and Just realized that a $15 bag of Maxibloom and a little shake in some warm water was WAY better than constantly stressing about ruining my grow... wondering if the grow shop would have the 1 out of 20 F'ing bottles I would need when I ran out.... and Learning how to use each product because the labels are complete Bullshit.

Did I mention $15 a Bag for Maxibloom... WTF was I thinking, I swear I'll never stray again.

(I'll play with some additives, I'm sure.. but that's not cheating)