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budshoteyes · 03-31-2011, 10:44 PM

Can a 50 amp stove plug be used to make a 50 amp panel for a grow room. The plug would be 2 ft long to the proposed panel....

Can it be done?

krunchbubble · 03-31-2011, 10:45 PM

sure can....

budshoteyes · 03-31-2011, 10:58 PM

That was quick!

I just bought the plug 15 minutes ago,next step is panel and breakers and to learn all wiring considerations

I hope to be running 5 - 600 waters...only 3 lights will be on at any one time! + One fan and 8 air pumps

Thanks..... any wiring diagrams I can be pointed towards will be great!

Electrician · 03-31-2011, 11:05 PM

Oh boy, another Oven Receptacle being used as a disconnecting means, with cord ends feeding a sub panel. This seems to be a trend around here. It can be done, not a recommended way, but to each his own, I guess.

Electrician · 03-31-2011, 11:09 PM

If I was going to use that I would eliminate the oven outlet. Get some 6/4 SJO cord and use the oven outlet box as a junction box. Get a cord grip connector and a blank plate and splice your connections in that box that way it can't become unplugged. Run the SJO Cord to your desired panel location.

budshoteyes · 03-31-2011, 11:25 PM

My main reason for considering the plug to panel is that the main panel is 2 levels below the room and on the other end of the building. I would have to run 100 ft of line.

I spent 15 bux on the plug......to abandon the plug/oven To go a Safer route is definitely preferred!

gardenbug · 04-01-2011, 08:56 AM

With that long of a run and that much power, make sure the wire in the stove plug is the appropriate size and in good condition. I would go with the hardwire suggestion, less plugs means less points of failure but it would work.

Catchin1 · 04-26-2011, 04:30 PM

what size is the wire in the box for the oven receptacle and how many are there. You know they could have run #8 up there and not #6 if they used copper. If there is just two conductors and a ground, then it would not be appropriate for a sub panel but if it has four wire in it two legs and a insulated neutral and an isolated bare ground then you will be fine to make it into a sub panel, provided that you separate and isolate your grounds and neutrals at this point.
You know "rigging" this stuff where you live and sleep is not cool. A electrical fire is not a good thing at all. The fiure dept comes in and starts bashing holes in walls, tracking mud and shit through the house and your insurance company when they find out it was due to something you "rigged" to make a grow op then they will not pay and you are screwed again.

compost · 04-26-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by budshoteyes

My main reason for considering the plug to panel is that the main panel is 2 levels below the room and on the other end of the building. I would have to run 100 ft of line.

I spent 15 bux on the plug......to abandon the plug/oven To go a Safer route is definitely preferred!

Electrician is not saying you have to run it from the main box. You can still use the oven line, only instead of running a plug from there to your panel just put in a juntion box. The reason being is that it is a much more STABLE connection and you can use the cord grip connector that he mentioned. Right off the 15 or take it back and spend less money on the parts needed to have it safe.

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03-31-2011, 10:58 PM	#3
budshoteyes Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 381	That was quick! I just bought the plug 15 minutes ago,next step is panel and breakers and to learn all wiring considerations I hope to be running 5 - 600 waters...only 3 lights will be on at any one time! + One fan and 8 air pumps Thanks..... any wiring diagrams I can be pointed towards will be great!
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03-31-2011, 11:05 PM	#4
Electrician Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: California Posts: 121	Oh boy, another Oven Receptacle being used as a disconnecting means, with cord ends feeding a sub panel. This seems to be a trend around here. It can be done, not a recommended way, but to each his own, I guess.
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03-31-2011, 11:09 PM	#5
Electrician Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: California Posts: 121	If I was going to use that I would eliminate the oven outlet. Get some 6/4 SJO cord and use the oven outlet box as a junction box. Get a cord grip connector and a blank plate and splice your connections in that box that way it can't become unplugged. Run the SJO Cord to your desired panel location.
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03-31-2011, 11:25 PM	#6
budshoteyes Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 381	My main reason for considering the plug to panel is that the main panel is 2 levels below the room and on the other end of the building. I would have to run 100 ft of line. I spent 15 bux on the plug......to abandon the plug/oven To go a Safer route is definitely preferred!
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04-01-2011, 08:56 AM	#7
gardenbug Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 266	With that long of a run and that much power, make sure the wire in the stove plug is the appropriate size and in good condition. I would go with the hardwire suggestion, less plugs means less points of failure but it would work.
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04-26-2011, 04:30 PM	#8
Catchin1 Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 131	what what size is the wire in the box for the oven receptacle and how many are there. You know they could have run #8 up there and not #6 if they used copper. If there is just two conductors and a ground, then it would not be appropriate for a sub panel but if it has four wire in it two legs and a insulated neutral and an isolated bare ground then you will be fine to make it into a sub panel, provided that you separate and isolate your grounds and neutrals at this point. You know "rigging" this stuff where you live and sleep is not cool. A electrical fire is not a good thing at all. The fiure dept comes in and starts bashing holes in walls, tracking mud and shit through the house and your insurance company when they find out it was due to something you "rigged" to make a grow op then they will not pay and you are screwed again.
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