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Old 03-31-2011, 10:01 PM #1
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First try at recycling

I'm having a try a soil recycling. I've been growing tote filled the coco version of LC #1 mix amended with the kelp meal and guano (two kinds). I basically only want to do this is if is easy which means no screening soil, cleaning out old roots, or letting the soil rest. Thus, I'm taking a pretty simple approach to recycling.

Today I harvested this:


After harvest I cut the root ball and transplanted in two seed plants and top dressed with approximately 2 cups of the Indonesian bat guano (which I thought was a mix consisting of Mexican bat guano, Indonesian bat guano, earth worm castings, and kelp meal). The stem and root ball from the old plant were cut up and worked in to the top layer of soil as mulch.


I'll update this so folks can see if it is really this easy.

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Last edited by pinecone; 04-13-2011 at 06:14 PM.. Reason: There was an error in the orginal post. I did not topdressed with guano flowering mix, but rather Indonesian bat guano.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:20 PM #2
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Cool.....
I'm going to experiment by just cutting open a hole next to the stump and planting a clone. I think I'll do a few like this to get a good idea of what the results will be. I plan on topdressing with EWC,compost,bat guano,fish bone meal,alfalfa,and kelp meal applied at certain times through the cycle. The idea is to not disturb the world that has already been created below the surface,but allow the processes of nature to work with it like it does outdoors.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:46 PM #3
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Cool.....
I'm going to experiment by just cutting open a hole next to the stump and planting a clone.
This is basically what I did. I only cut enough of the stump - root ball out so that I could get the new plants in.

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The idea is to not disturb the world that has already been created below the surface,but allow the processes of nature to work with it like it does outdoors.
I've been influenced by the "do not disturb" advocates. It is a very appealing approach and it is pretty darn simple. I hope this works out for both of us.

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Old 03-31-2011, 10:54 PM #4
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nicceee did you tie down branches or do scrog? btw when recycling soil, bugs get in the soil and shit easier, reccomend using some type of water mix with tobacco,garlic, dishsoap, etc. to try to kill the insects if they start gettin in the soil.
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:06 PM #5
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nicceee did you tie down branches or do scrog?
When I transplanted I put the root ball all the way at the left end of the container. Then I bent the main stem over to the right and started tying down side branches when they reached the edge. Thus, it is sort of a virtual ScroG - or screen-less-ScroG.

I'm going to do something similar with the new plants that I put in. They are going to be bent over the container's width in opposite directions.

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btw when recycling soil, bugs get in the soil and shit easier, reccomend using some type of water mix with tobacco,garlic, dishsoap, etc. to try to kill the insects if they start gettin in the soil.
The main bugs that I'm concerned about are spider mites and I do practice preventative spraying of a neem based solution during veg and early flower. I wouldn't actually mind having balanced bugs ecosystem (including predators), but I think I would be difficult to get established in my small office closet cab.

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Old 04-02-2011, 05:50 AM #6
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Hey pinecone, still growing healthy green plants I see. I'll keep an eye on this one. Right now I'm trying my first run with reused/undisturbed coco. So far so good. Gotta love anything that makes our lives easier.

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Nice one folks. I sincerely hope these smaller containers give you an easy ride like I've been having with my larger bed.

I HIGHLY recommend adding a mulch layer. Soil is most active on top, solar (e.g. lighting) radiation and drying out is not conducive to happy soil microbes.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:51 PM #8
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Thanks for stopping by icough and MrFista.

MrFista - I've read about your beds. They were part of what inspired me to try this.

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I HIGHLY recommend adding a mulch layer. Soil is most active on top, solar (e.g. lighting) radiation and drying out is not conducive to happy soil microbes.
I have come to believe in mulch and keeping it moist. I always mulch with leftover plants and any leafs and stems that get plucked off growing plants. The prior plant was mulched decently this way, but a lot of that got mixed when I transplanted and there wasn't enough stems and stump from the old plant to provide good coverage. Solution: I ran the trim from the old plant through water hash bags and saved the leavings for mulch. Now I have mulch and hash.

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Cannamulch - there isn't enough, but there will be more once I get to pruning. Additionally, the plants will be bent over the container when they get a little bigger providing a shady, cool, and moist micro-climate.


The hash turned out pretty good
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Old 04-06-2011, 05:12 PM #9
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update

one plant in particular didn't do so well initially. It starting growing pale green and showing some rust on the larger fans. So far I've watered with a EWC, fish, and kelp tea, foliar fed with a diluted mixture of the of the same tea, and top dressed with EWC. They seem to be on their way back to looking good. This is a learning process.

BTW these are non-fem Green House Seeds Super Silver Haze seed plants. I started super cropping them a few days ago. The plant on the right is the one that has had more issues, but I think it is on its way back. On a scale of 1-10 (1 about ready to die and 10 perfect health) the plant got down to about a 5. I would put it at a 7 and improving now.
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Old 04-06-2011, 06:13 PM #10
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Well that explains it^^^......kidding.
I'll definitely be watching to see how this goes. Good luck.
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