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Old 04-12-2011, 12:03 AM
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.:|Sweet Afgani Delicious Auto + Speed Devil #1 & #2|:.
.:|Transplanting to the final pots at day 19|:.













1 SAD Auto in a 18 litre pot (with 15 litres of soil)
1 SAD Auto in a 11 litre pot
1 Speed Devil #2 in a 18 litre pot (with 15 litres of soil)
1 Speed Devil #1 in a 11 litre pot


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Old 04-12-2011, 12:11 AM
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Well, I know you're curious, so let me post a pic of the closets I'm runing right now...




Homebox XS (60x60x120cm = 0,36m2) now with the 4 plants of this thread.

1 Homebox Mini (30x30x60cm = 0,09m2) now with the Snow Fruit micro SCROG.

1 Homebox Mini (30x30x60cm = 0,09m2) used to veg seedlings and/or to keep mothers and vegg clones a bit. Now I have one mother of Mohan Ram and a Cream47 seedling in there.


Slightly more than half a square meter (0,54m2) that allow me to get enough flowers for personal use while it also allows for sharing some beautiful diaries with you guys over here

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Old 04-12-2011, 03:18 PM
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Why did you start them in such small pots??

IME starting autos in the largest pot from day 1 will allow you to max out your yield....

Starting in such small pots just stunts your plants and never allows them to reach full potential...
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Old 04-12-2011, 06:51 PM
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Hello buddy!

Thanks for your visit and comment, really nice that you bring this subject to light, hehehe. I completly agree with you and I always advice everyone that buys our autos to do right as you say. Overall it's the best and easiest way to do it.

So, if I have the same opinion as you, you might want to know why I do it differently... Let me try to explain...

With autos the grower has no time to make mistakes. The autoflowering varieties can't wait. If you're growing a non-auto and at day 25 the plant is too small to change to 12/12, you can wait for a couple of weeks more and than you change to 12/12. With autos you can't do this because the plants will start flowering no matter the hours of light they get. So, if at day 25 you have a small plant, she will start flowering anyway. That's why it is better to germinate directly in the final pots, so the grower avoids the risk of failing to transplant in the right timing.

On the other hand, if the grower is experienced and knows exactely the right time to transplant, I think it is more positive to go from a smaller pot, to a medium pot and than to the final pot. If it is done in the right timing* it is better for the development of the plants, in my opinion. If you germinate directly in the final pot you also have to be careful about other issues. You can't have seedlings in a 10 litre pot and water with 1 litre of water. If you do this the soil will remain moisty for several days, because the little plant doesn't have roots big enough to achieve all the water present on the soil and having a moisty soil for several days is not good for the plants development. One has to water with just some 100ml of water to start and then 200ml, and so on, a bit more every time. But even like this, roots will go straight down to the bottom of the pot, not taking advantage of all the soil available near the "walls" of the pot. By transplanting from one pot to another, they can use all that space and soil, but of course, it is very risky if the grower doesn't know the right timing to transplant or if he knows but he gets lazy and leaves it for another day...

Just a bit like with the non-autos. As you know, with non-autos it is advised to do several transplants and there is a reason for it. With the autos the reasons are the same but plants don't wait so it is risky to follow this procedure and that's why me and many other growers advice other growers to germinate directly in the final pot. Because chances of failure are reduced.


*the right timing to transplant would be something like that:
  • 300ml pots from gemination to day 8
  • 3 litre pots from day 8 to day 18
  • Final pots from day 18 to harvest


I did exactely like this in my previous autoflowering varieties grow and plants didn't get underdeveloped, in my opinion...

...but you can see for yourself: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...0&postcount=71


Thanks again for talking about this subject. I sometimes just post pics and nothing else, so having people interested in discussing some ideas is always good for this diaries

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Old 04-15-2011, 03:02 AM
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next post, next page, next update,

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Old 04-15-2011, 03:08 AM
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.:|Sweet Afgani Delicious Auto + Speed Devil #1 & #2|:.

.:|Day 23 since germination|:.


Hey buddys! How are you? Thanks for the visits!

Well, this keeps going, the explosive growth is already noticeable, they have automatically adapted to the new pots and soil, never stoped growing and look very healthy. I leave you with the usual reports and pictures...






Watering Report:
  • pH of the water: 6,3
  • Fertilizer: Nothing yet
  • Bloom stimulator: No
  • Quantity of water per plant: 600ml
  • Watering frequency: once every 2 days


The Speed Devils are very similar. Just a slight difference in the structure of the leaves so far, but nothing else. Here's a couple of pics where you can see both plants...





The Weather
  • Maximum temperature: 25,6º
  • Minimum temperature: 17,5º
  • Thermic amplitude: 8,1º
  • Humidity with HPS: 39%
  • Humidity without HPS: 76%
Color scale > Green: optimal | Orange: satisfying | Brown: worrying | Red: dangerous


I'll be back in 5 days, at day 28 since germination. Stay tuned, coloured bud porn is not that far away anymore

Keep it sweet!

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Old 04-25-2011, 02:39 AM
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.:|Sweet Afgani Delicious Auto + Speed Devil #1 & #2|:.

.:|Day 28 since germination|:.



Hey buddys!

Day 28 since germination and they're still growing. A few signs of flowering already... In the next update I'll try to post some pistil pictures, hehehe. They're still growing more to the sides than up, plants are real bushes, they'll stay short but productive, I hope, as I like them Some pics...

First the Sweet Afganis, in the first pic we have the plant that is in the 11l pot and in the second pic the one in the 15l pot...








Watering Report:
  • pH of the water: 6,4
  • Fertilizer: Nothing yet
  • Bloom stimulator: No
  • Quantity of water per plant: 800ml
  • Watering frequency: once every 2 days


Now the Speed Devil #1 (Speed Devil #2 is in the first pic of this post)




The Weather
  • Maximum temperature: 26,9º
  • Minimum temperature: 18,7º
  • Thermic amplitude: 8,2º
  • Humidity with HPS: 36%
  • Humidity without HPS: 72%
Color scale > Green: optimal | Orange: satisfying | Brown: worrying | Red: dangerous



I'll be back very soon, keep passing by, sweet smokes!

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Old 04-27-2011, 04:45 PM
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.:|Sweet Afgani Delicious Auto + Speed Devil #1 & #2|:.

.:|Day 31 since germination|:.


Hi guys! What's up?

Another update... 3 days after we can see that the plants are stretching more to the sides than up. They will stretch a bit more but I don't want them tall, you should remember that one of the goals of this test grow is "Observe if with a 70wHPS lamp very close to the plants in the vegetative phase the plants stay shorter than in my previous grow and see how this will (or will not) influence the final production."

Well, we start with the SAD Auto. First pic is the one in an eleven litre pot and second pic is the SAD with fifteen litres of soil...



Watering Report:
  • pH of the water: 6,5
  • Fertilizer: Nothing yet
  • Bloom stimulator: No
  • Quantity of water per plant: 800ml
  • Watering frequency: once every 2 days


Speed Devils are growing really very well, with health and vigour. Their appearance is a bit strange for their foliar structure, they look like devils, hehe. First pic is the plant with 15 litres of soil and second pic is the one with 11 litres...




The Weather
  • Maximum temperature: 28,4º
  • Minimum temperature: 19,7º
  • Thermic amplitude: 8,7º
  • Humidity with HPS: 43%
  • Humidity without HPS: 78%
Color scale > Green: optimal | Orange: satisfying | Brown: worrying | Red: dangerous






I'll be back soon with more, stay tuned!

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Old 05-04-2011, 03:50 PM
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.:|Sweet Afgani Delicious Auto + Speed Devil #1 & #2|:.

.:|Day 36 since germination|:.


Hi mates! Thanks StRa!

They are beautiful, growing well and with many branches. The leaves are already getting a bit yellow, too much for this flowering phase, but I'm not going to worry about that for now. I'll keep feeding them with a bit of bloom fert and a bit of blooming stimulator (BioBoost) but nothing else.

Some SAD Auto fotos to start...








Watering Report:
  • pH of the water: 6,3
  • Fertilizer: BioFlores from Canna (3ml per litre of water)
  • Bloom stimulator: No
  • Quantity of water per plant: 800ml
  • Watering frequency: once every 2 days


Now the Speed Devil #2

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The Weather
  • Maximum temperature: 29,6º
  • Minimum temperature: 20,6º
  • Thermic amplitude:
  • Humidity with HPS: 38%
  • Humidity without HPS: 71%
Color scale > Green: optimal | Orange: satisfying | Brown: worrying | Red: dangerous



No pics of Speed Devil #1, but you can see her in this 2 last pics, in the left in the first line. She's the tallest and also the less beautiful from among the 4, heeheh, but I'm expecting that the appearance will not influence production, because she is with some strong branches, capable of sustaining some large buds.

Soon I'll let you know more Keep it sweet!

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