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Old 03-26-2011, 04:47 PM #21
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thanks man, I've thought of marrying this flo selection to your sweet tooth.... It's been in the back of my head for sure. Keep in touch Give me one more selection run, and it'll be on.
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selecting the high

The high from this flo selection began with a male plant from the spring season of 2010. I was sampling males from the spring run and had several very strong and vastly different phenos. The male I used had a red stem and a very "female" structure. The stem smell in early veg was that same bright and beautiful, dry tone of sublime berry and rose that has defined the line. Here is a photo:

He did not drop pollen until very, very late. I thought he was sterile for the longest time. I believe the cold temps last spring had something to due with the weird pollen shed.

Anyway, the high form this true (non-hermi) male was warm, bright and expansive with a very positive shift in mood. He went on to pollinate everything pretty much.

The high from the mom of this generation was similar but more energizing especially at first. The first time i sampled her I passed her off as too speedy, but a couple of weeks of curing brought out her kindness and flavor big time. Anyway, here are a few key points to consider when selecting the high from this flo line:

- Clarity, positivity, and kind (non-anxious) motivation

- The onset is more or less immediate but builds and lasts for about two hours

- The high fades into clean energy - there is no burnout

- The munchy factor is minimal, the red-eye factor is also minimal

- This flo seems pretty stable in effects throughout curing and aging
Many strains seem to really change during curing and aging from an up and happy motivating high, to a dreamy sedative stone. This plant has, so far, stored very well.

- The high is very socially conscious and conversation flos easily. Some herbs, like the oaxacan barra for example, shut me up and put me in a trance. The berry flo is empathetic, focused and funny

Anyway those are some rambling thoughts and key points that I'm considering and trying to isolate.
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I don't like to curse but its difficult to express my interest in this Bright line without resorting to vulgar speech. Nice work, bodymind, and do keep us apprised of developments as you continue your work.
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^As in, 'that sounds fucking beautiful'?

agreed, that's my reaction to those descriptions. This thread is gorgeous, and I really like your photography as well, thanks for sharing!

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Thanks you guys..... Hopefully, this generation will help isolate this true floral expression. Some of the phenos have a very high astringency and a few others have a softer, more round expression of the rose wine and berry scent. I'm also picking up some distinct rosemary on a few of the plants, which is an extension or the pine/cedar oils. I'm selecting toward the more pure high notes so far.

Also, one of the two flowering males (the high, astringent male) is turning into a reverse hermi. It has the scent I'm looking for (and the slightly branchier structure),but i'm still slightly hesitant to to breed with a reverse hermi. I have several more batches of plants, about 30 overall, that will phase into flowering one after the other. Each batch will be bred separately, more or less, so I'm confident that I'll have good diversity even if i just select the best from each batch - even if that means using a reverse hermi male in this first run. If DJ is out there lurking, some guidance would be lovely. Until then, I think it's bath time then bed time


p.s. I was just gifted big sur holy weed seeds, as well as outdoor grown bluemoonshine, and an old sativa strain from the santa cruz mountains... Things could get crazy!! but I'm trying to keep it focused and under control..
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Thumbs up Great Thread for Rose Lookers!!! Kudos Bodymind!!!

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...Some herbs, like the oaxacan barra for example, shut me...
I agree that some plants can do this downing effect
...i've had some colombian give me the effects of what I consider 'indica'!!!

It's nice to have big buds or generic colombian, but I prefer things like heirloom tomatoes for best tomato effects

Perhaps, in the State of Oaxaca, the Barra has been tainted with mystery genes, but I would assume there may be a need to compare say 4 or 5 Barra phenos...to get a good sense of what its potential is?!?

The strain called Blue Heaven was only a heaven high in 50% of the harvested girls, which is about 1 in 4 seeds.
...and DJ put that seedrun to market because he said it produced an extraordinarily high ratio of pleasant plants...yield blew everytime though!!!

Great Documentation of Efforts Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hmmm, I'm not saying that the Barra high, for me, is in any way indica oriented. It feels very cerebrally stimulating, but in an entrancing and introspective way. The Barra phenos I've tried are not social at all for me (It's more of a sit alone and wonder why I feel so strange weed), whereas my flo selection is very social and conversational. I'm not criticizing the Barra either, it felt like it could be very healing - psychedelic even - shaman weed. For me though, I prefer mushrooms when I want those kind of experiences. The Barra takes me on a trip for which I am often not prepared. The high feels a little wilder to me, less cultivated and friendly - raw nature - scary. There is great merit to these experiences, especially if they are combined with a shining clarity of mind. Perhaps a cross of the barra and my flo would give the Barra high more clarity and positivity. A little bright comfort.

And thank you Mr. Alkaline, I think this is worthwhile project
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... Perhaps a cross of the barra and my flo would give the Barra high more clarity and positivity. A little bright comfort...
Yeah...I see what u mean, and I just thought the barra would show more variation and be less psychedelic at diff harvest windows, but who knows

I guess we'll know soon enough!
-Im excited about trying the one I have with striped calyxes.
Oh, btw, the red kalimosts have a nice bulkiness to the 4 tops, rather than the popcorn appearance of some green ones from last years run.
The top buds are maturing the fastest and the yield has never been as nice on them.
The stretch has decreased, the buds are longer and more greasy.
I'm super happy about this crop, and can't wait to smoke the results.
Looks like maybe 3-4 weeks til then, so I'll keep u posted on the progressions.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:02 PM #29
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I've been out of town, and lots of wonderful stuff has happened while I was gone. The indoor plants are doing really well and one of the flo females inside (out of four) is proving to be the perfect pheno, so far: stretchy, elegant, very dry rose effervescent sweetness in the resin. Two other moms have very similar scents, but this one has more complexity and more "dry effervescence" for lack of a better term.

I've also culled a lot of the males. I'm down to two that are flowering right now, one of which is a reverse hermie. The other "true male" is a younger plant that is behind in flowering, but has the stem smell that i am looking for. Again, a lot of the males are similar, but I'm looking for the dry effervescent rose sweetness, which is not syrupy sweet - combined with the faintest hint of spice.

Pictures will follow soon. Peace my people!
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bodymind - you mentioned that you are able to select as early as seedlings for the traits you associate with the Bright expression. Is it mostly aroma or are there other attributes? For example, coloration?

If one were to join you in the pursuit of Bright flos, should the journey be chronicled here or in a new thread? Gets weird since there are also Barras in the mix, so maybe that thread is best.
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