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minds_I · 02-05-2006, 11:52 AM

Hello all,

What's your take on this?

Manganese def?

minds_I

'PS I have thrips and its two weeks till harvest.

02-07-2006, 05:19 AM

Looks like mine
I think it's a K def.
I just posted a request for help

02-07-2006, 06:48 AM

If you are only two weeks untill harvest I wouldn't worry about the leaves turning at that point. I stop adding ferts two week before harvest anyway. I'd just watch the buds get sugary and forget the leaves.
It's all about the Bud now

minds_I · 02-07-2006, 08:24 AM

I have one Afghani that is about ten days till harvest.

I have two Papaya that are about 4 weeks from finishing.

I also have one Afghani and a Calio that are about 6 weeks out.

Now I have this thrips issue and I have been treating the 4 plants that still have time before harvest but with the one with nothing to do but wait. I did use NPS and they did not take care of the problem. I have neem but can't use it on that plant.

I have treated them with garlic/pepper/nicotene spray as well.

I am thinking I might have to be more drastic and start over-ARRGGGGG! not the best option.

It is interesting as I have also developed a case of predator mites that consume the trips-the predator mites were actually the bug I noticed first. It was not for a week later that I discovered the thrips. In researching what the PM was, I discovered that if they are in my grow cab it is becasue they have food. Else they would leave or die. So, what was it that they were living on---thrips.

Damn. I would hate to have to start over. I have a small grow-just 5 plant plus cuts in the other chamber.

I can take the time to provide them with the care necessary to overcome the bastards. I am going to spray neem oil tonight as required-but with that one that I can't touch seems to be a henderence.

I am now thinking of cutting it early (and its just starting to fatten up too) to save the rest. BUt I don't know if the thrips infestation is too massive to be cured.

The cab is only 30"x20"x48",

I am getting kind of worried about this.

minds_I

Cheeba · 02-07-2006, 11:12 AM

You should be flushing by now so don't worry about the deficiency. How bad are the thrips? Check out this thread from 1tokeOverLine

minds_I · 02-07-2006, 01:01 PM

How bad are the thrips-well, there everywhere-little ieeny tiny little specs they are. No longer then .5mm. Some crawl while others seem to skip or jump.

The problem is that they are not on the leaves or the plant. I have spent hours looking for them in the plant. They are in the soil.

I put a white paper plate under the buds and shake and nothing. I put the plate on the shelf under the pot and distrub the soil and they start dropping from above.

It is weird. I don't know what to do.

minds_I

gOurd^jr. · 02-08-2006, 02:52 AM

If they are in the soil and not on the plant that seems real good to me....Now I admit I don't know shit about thrips but I know that Neem oil works as a systemic pesticide meaning that if you water it into the soil the plant will uptake it and then if pests eat your plant they will be ingesting neem. So if you make a neem solution, I'm unsure of what kind of ratios to use sorry, and spray the soil not only will you cover the little bastards directly you will also protect the foliage through uptake.
Also neem works by interrupting the lifecycle of insects, it makes them unable to molt properly, form new cuticle etc. So If you are going to treat with neem you have to do it periodically, like every few days, for a couple weeks. hope it helps
peace and pot
gOurd

minds_I · 02-08-2006, 07:31 AM

Yeah, I have soil drenched them once. They are in need of another treatment tonight.

How close to harvest can I use it?

minds_I

Cheeba · 02-11-2006, 11:25 PM

Hi Minds I. I believe that you may have fungus gnats larvae...not thrips. Can you take a pic of them? It's only a guess

Verite · 02-14-2006, 12:08 AM

Thrips have two life stages where they are in the soil. The skip/jump perfectly describes the action of the young adult that has yet to form a full set of wings. They will be firmly nested in both the plant and the soil. Sprays and neem may work above but you'll need some beneficial nematodes below the soil.

02-05-2006, 11:52 AM	#1
minds_I The Emperor is not only naked but batshit crazy. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norcal USA Posts: 5,269	Brown spots Hello all, What's your take on this? Manganese def? minds_I 'PS I have thrips and its two weeks till harvest. __________________ His contempt for objective truth is the rejection of democratic accountability, an implicit demand that his supporters place undying faith in him. Because the only measure of truth he accepts is what he claims at any given moment, the power his supporters vest in him is unlimited. Sound familiar? If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. In the United States, under our Constitution, a free press is a check on politicians of all parties. If we are to demand that other countries respect the tradition of a free press we must also practice that here at home. Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe.
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02-07-2006, 05:19 AM	#2
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Looks like mine I think it's a K def. I just posted a request for help Last edited by Shaggy; 02-07-2006 at 05:21 AM..
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02-07-2006, 06:48 AM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	If you are only two weeks untill harvest I wouldn't worry about the leaves turning at that point. I stop adding ferts two week before harvest anyway. I'd just watch the buds get sugary and forget the leaves. It's all about the Bud now
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02-07-2006, 08:24 AM	#4
minds_I The Emperor is not only naked but batshit crazy. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norcal USA Posts: 5,269	I have one Afghani that is about ten days till harvest. I have two Papaya that are about 4 weeks from finishing. I also have one Afghani and a Calio that are about 6 weeks out. Now I have this thrips issue and I have been treating the 4 plants that still have time before harvest but with the one with nothing to do but wait. I did use NPS and they did not take care of the problem. I have neem but can't use it on that plant. I have treated them with garlic/pepper/nicotene spray as well. I am thinking I might have to be more drastic and start over-ARRGGGGG! not the best option. It is interesting as I have also developed a case of predator mites that consume the trips-the predator mites were actually the bug I noticed first. It was not for a week later that I discovered the thrips. In researching what the PM was, I discovered that if they are in my grow cab it is becasue they have food. Else they would leave or die. So, what was it that they were living on---thrips. Damn. I would hate to have to start over. I have a small grow-just 5 plant plus cuts in the other chamber. I can take the time to provide them with the care necessary to overcome the bastards. I am going to spray neem oil tonight as required-but with that one that I can't touch seems to be a henderence. I am now thinking of cutting it early (and its just starting to fatten up too) to save the rest. BUt I don't know if the thrips infestation is too massive to be cured. The cab is only 30"x20"x48", I am getting kind of worried about this. minds_I __________________ His contempt for objective truth is the rejection of democratic accountability, an implicit demand that his supporters place undying faith in him. Because the only measure of truth he accepts is what he claims at any given moment, the power his supporters vest in him is unlimited. Sound familiar? If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. In the United States, under our Constitution, a free press is a check on politicians of all parties. If we are to demand that other countries respect the tradition of a free press we must also practice that here at home. Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe.
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02-07-2006, 11:12 AM	#5
Cheeba Registered Toker Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 238	You should be flushing by now so don't worry about the deficiency. How bad are the thrips? Check out this thread from 1tokeOverLine
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02-07-2006, 01:01 PM	#6
minds_I The Emperor is not only naked but batshit crazy. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norcal USA Posts: 5,269	How bad are the thrips-well, there everywhere-little ieeny tiny little specs they are. No longer then .5mm. Some crawl while others seem to skip or jump. The problem is that they are not on the leaves or the plant. I have spent hours looking for them in the plant. They are in the soil. I put a white paper plate under the buds and shake and nothing. I put the plate on the shelf under the pot and distrub the soil and they start dropping from above. It is weird. I don't know what to do. minds_I __________________ His contempt for objective truth is the rejection of democratic accountability, an implicit demand that his supporters place undying faith in him. Because the only measure of truth he accepts is what he claims at any given moment, the power his supporters vest in him is unlimited. Sound familiar? If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. In the United States, under our Constitution, a free press is a check on politicians of all parties. If we are to demand that other countries respect the tradition of a free press we must also practice that here at home. Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe.
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02-08-2006, 02:52 AM	#7
gOurd^jr. wwwooooooshh Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: On a trip... Posts: 386	If they are in the soil and not on the plant that seems real good to me....Now I admit I don't know shit about thrips but I know that Neem oil works as a systemic pesticide meaning that if you water it into the soil the plant will uptake it and then if pests eat your plant they will be ingesting neem. So if you make a neem solution, I'm unsure of what kind of ratios to use sorry, and spray the soil not only will you cover the little bastards directly you will also protect the foliage through uptake. Also neem works by interrupting the lifecycle of insects, it makes them unable to molt properly, form new cuticle etc. So If you are going to treat with neem you have to do it periodically, like every few days, for a couple weeks. hope it helps peace and pot gOurd
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02-08-2006, 07:31 AM	#8
minds_I The Emperor is not only naked but batshit crazy. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norcal USA Posts: 5,269	Yeah, I have soil drenched them once. They are in need of another treatment tonight. How close to harvest can I use it? minds_I __________________ His contempt for objective truth is the rejection of democratic accountability, an implicit demand that his supporters place undying faith in him. Because the only measure of truth he accepts is what he claims at any given moment, the power his supporters vest in him is unlimited. Sound familiar? If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. In the United States, under our Constitution, a free press is a check on politicians of all parties. If we are to demand that other countries respect the tradition of a free press we must also practice that here at home. Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe.
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02-11-2006, 11:25 PM	#9
Cheeba Registered Toker Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 238	Hi Minds I. I believe that you may have fungus gnats larvae...not thrips. Can you take a pic of them? It's only a guess
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02-14-2006, 12:08 AM	#10
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Thrips have two life stages where they are in the soil. The skip/jump perfectly describes the action of the young adult that has yet to form a full set of wings. They will be firmly nested in both the plant and the soil. Sprays and neem may work above but you'll need some beneficial nematodes below the soil. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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