[purrpullkush]

Hey,
I have been seeing Budder / Wax around the Bay Area Cannabis Clubs that looks like honeycomb.
Here is a youtube video showing the stuff I am talking about:

https://youtu.be/Aso0jDXSQ8k

This stuff is obviously BHO, everything about it is exactly like your traditional budder/earwax except this honeycomb thing. Does anyone know how they are achieving this honeycomb look? I'm guessing its something to do with heating/cooling/aeration but I'd love to hear what anyone thinks or knows about the subject.

[dope_roor]

some oils just do that overnight. usually the ones that budder up automatically. possibly residual butane or something in the oil that evaporates as it sits overnight. could be some other component evaporating/dehydrating. sorry i don't have an exact answer not 100% myself

[blood-shot-red]

Originally Posted by purrpullkush

Does anyone know how they are achieving this honeycomb look? I'm guessing its something to do with heating/cooling/aeration but I'd love to hear what anyone thinks or knows about the subject.

I don't know how they do it but i can take an educated guess.

1. The honeycomb structure is made by gas bubbles forming inside the wax.
2. The bubbles do not collapse or move(as in carbonated drinks). This indicates that it happens at relatively low temperatures.
3. The degassing takes place faster than regular diffusion to the surface.
4. It is quite a lot of work foaming this up with a gas like nitrogen. Wouldn't make sense to to me

So I suppose it is regular good quality BHO, degassed under vacuum. This lowers the boiling point of the butane(in mixture) and it bubbles out without the wax melting.

[medicalgreen]

Originally Posted by blood-shot-red

I don't know how they do it but i can take an educated guess.

1. The honeycomb structure is made by gas bubbles forming inside the wax.
2. The bubbles do not collapse or move(as in carbonated drinks). This indicates that it happens at relatively low temperatures.
3. The degassing takes place faster than regular diffusion to the surface.
4. It is quite a lot of work foaming this up with a gas like nitrogen. Wouldn't make sense to to me

So I suppose it is regular good quality BHO, degassed under vacuum. This lowers the boiling point of the butane(in mixture) and it bubbles out without the wax melting.

Agreed 100%. albeit, i'm sure it's made from decent quality bud to begin with, includes small popcorn, BTW.
It's poorly purged BHO, whipped up, with Butane caught in between the bubble bursts, and slowly purged, but not completely or efficiently, so as to leave the structure intact, as it cools, with bubbles slowly escaping. A CHEAP way to make a fancy looking, but poorly purged BHO. Still retains butane I would imagine, and that is the reason it always decays rapidly, as far as strength and flavor. Some of the worst, but looks cool enough to try, and if you get it fast and early, it can still be a BHO blessing.

Around 2002, this stuff, or something similar, called "peanut budder" started popping up in the bay area clubs. It was also poorly purged, but slightly less "whipped". It crackled every time you hit it. From remnants of Butane. of course. Still, 3rd street carried it and sold out all the time, and it was a favorite around town for a long time. Most likely made from a slightly less quality material than the latest Budder is now a days. Some Budder is even purged very well, but still retains it's physical characteristics. Undoubtedly, there is still butane caught in the material. But i'm not sure of that.

Now that I look at it again, YES, it's likely done with a vacuum purge, at about 30, with BUD.
I have a commercial vacuum that pulls 30. It's a food sealer, but high quality, I got for this purpose. That's what it does to the material. Most likely they start from good bud to begin with, thouth. It never fully purges the material though, or it takes many sessions. There are better ways.

Budder Shatter is BHetter!

Bottom Left = Budderscotch

[purrpullkush]

Appreciate the responses, anyone else with any experience, insight, or theories?

[Tela]

some people i know, that's all they smoke. ive been trying to figure it out for awhile how to make it. best smoked on plain white ashes. usually tastes bomb. the better stuff tastes better than plain oil. easy to handle. flies off the shelf

[cured2perfect]

lol this is an easy one guys.. when im done purging my budder and im ready to take off my dish from the double broiler and let it sit i put another dish right over it it bakes it all the way through as it cools off and can look like that if u leave alot of lil bubbles in it before letting it rest it happens to me quite often hope this helps.. experiment with putting lids over the dish when letting it sit
half the time i dont even need to scrape my dish i can just roll it all right off and roll it around with my hand
EVERY RUN I MAKE IS WITH FLOWERS NOT TRIM

[Tripsick]

mine does that all the time... it happens when you purge with low heat.

and then if you dont pop all the bubbles that are mostly terps they do that hole look as it sits in the open.


i call it auto waxing.. High Quality buds will do that.

[stevefrench]

made a good few runs of BHO/budder myself and my guess is that it might be BHO that is purged and then heated up again until it bubbles then flash frozen/thrown in the freezer


that oil posted above does look very similar though.

[jump117]

Originally Posted by Tripsick

all the bubbles that are mostly terps

No offense to adherents of this view, could you give convincing arguments for this assertion?

Whether it is time to recognize the error of this view?

Excuse me. Thank you.