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Old 03-11-2011, 05:32 AM
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Thinkin bout goin vert? Here's what you might need

My homie UnknownProphet gave me a great idea for a thread.

Vertical growing can be as simple as rippin your old reflector out, and hanging that light vertically. Viola! your ridin vert.
But to have your setup completely dialed in, your probably gonna have to add a few things and make some changes. That means your gonna need a few things.
Your probably thinkin.... "How the hell am I supposed to get the light to sit there like that?" or "where do you guys find those nets and screens?

So for UnknownProhpet, AugustWest and all you lurkers out there ready to make the jump, this is the place for all the stuff you haven't thought about.

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By now hopefully you have thought of what type of setup you want to run. NortherFarmers stadium? Red's house of Love? Aerohead's Weed donut? You have lots of choices. If you havent decided yet....you should start here:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=189454



All these different setups have they're own lil "tools" and "must haves" to get them to the promised land. Chances are you'll need some of them too. We really should make a list right?


Where to start??


Well, if you've been reading all the kick ass vert grows around here lately, you'll see that its impossible to have a successful grow without a few Honeywell fans!





Why the honeywell fans? You will need to put one of these under each of your vertically hung lights to help with temp control. This will act as an invisible cooltube and push the warm air up, up, and away from the bulb. Hopefully you already have your extraction fan at the top of your room removing all the hot air from the growroom. If your ambient temps are cooperating, bare bulb vert is very possible and very efficient, with the help of some strategically placed fans. They dont have to be honeywell, but you get the idea. Just make sure it can tilt upwards and has a speed control.




Ok, so you guys get the idea. If you have something to add, post it up. I'm gonna smoke me a big bowl of some Sour Bubble and come back with another suggestion.


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Old 03-11-2011, 05:46 AM
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One of the most important things you should strongly consider, is strain selection.
I try to pick strains that have a nice healthy stretch to them. The way I grow, the stretch helps when it comes time to train the plants into a "wall of weed" which is what all vert growers strive for. Unless you are growin in a sog stadium format, like NorthernFarmer, short indica's can be frustrating in a vert setup.

I also find it best to select a strain that can take a good amount of trimming (defoliation) and still be productive. I have found many diesel and kush genetics can thrive in these conditions. Their resistance to fan leaf removal works well with the golf balls diesels like to form. Pics? Sure.....


Here is a Diesel/Kush hybrid at 50ish days of flower. All the fan leaves have been removed, except those coming directly out of a bud, and she hasn't been negatively affected by it. The removal of the leaves allows for more of the inner nugs to chunk up








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Oh my, thanks so much for this. I plan on starting a "micro" vert. A 250watt light in a 2x2x5 grow tent. Seems to be a slightly unexplored region of vert growing, with most people using multiple lights in large rooms. Got any tips for us "small-timers"? Marlo you're the man!
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Training 101

top, fim, lst, whatever you call it, if you want optimal results it is a must...

i like lst as it wont stunt growth








shoot for the "Goal Post" look as it allows you too fill the canopy, gaps will kil your yeild...






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and that's how you vert... nice thread Marlo.
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Keeping the bud out of the light

Another thing you will need to consider is how to prevent your buds from falling into the light, or falling over from all the weight. How are you going to make your wall and keep it there?
There are more than a few ways you can go about it, depending on ur setup.

My 1st vert, I used some strategically placed stakes and twist ties. Both easily found at the Home De Pot or your local dollar store.
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This kept all the girls upright and out of the bulbs, but not many places to train branches imo.





The trellis is a very good option also. Not too rigid, holds all the buds up, and still allows alot of movement. Not too restricting. Great for large areas.

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Modular scrog screens work well for me. Made with 1/2" pvc and a roll of plastic fencing from the Home De Pot. Takes some time to make, but I've used the same screens for 5 harvest now.













And here's a great example of how to use tomato cages to start your wall of buds

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Great thread as I am in rebuild mode and want to construct a vertical stadium. Keep your advice a flowin - thanks!
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honeywell turbo

i copped this from medium pimpin...8 to 6 reducer strategically placed.



oooh now i notice these sours were thrown in 12/28 and 1/6. another week and two respectively
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