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Old 03-04-2011, 02:26 AM #1
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NJ MED PUBLIC HEARING MONDAY MARCH 7 2011& PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TILL APRIL 23!!!

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD FREE OF "oh NJ law sucks i'm just gonna blah blah blah.." POSTS, THEY ARE NOT CONSTRUCTIVE AND WILL NOT LEAD TO A BETTER LAW.


This is the latest information on the public hearing set for this coming MONDAY MARCH 7th 2011 in Trenton. It has been moved a few times, no doubt trying to confuse the hell out of potheadsTHIS IS THE NEWEST ADDRESS AS OF TODAY.

War memorial-Delaware River room
1 Memorial Drive
Trenton, NJ 08608

MONDAY 10am-12pm

ALSO THERE IS AN OPTION TO WRITE IN YOUR OPINION ON THIS LAW TO THIS ADDRESS
Submit written comments by April 23, 2011 to:
Devon L. Graf, Director
Office of Legal and Regulatory Compliance
Office of the Commissioner
New Jersey Department of Health and Senior Services
PO Box 360
Trenton, NJ 08625-0360


As we all know, NJ has currently proposed some pretty shitty laws for medical users. Only 6 stores in the whole state, leaving lengthy drives for cancer patients, no home growing, leaving your only option the often overpriced dispensaries with a 10% cap on THC. the entire bill in its present form can be found here----
The agency proposal follows: https://www.state.nj.us/health/docume...a_proposal.pdf

it is a 111 page pdf, but if this effects you, THEN READ SOME OF IT. it is split up into patient information and ATC information.

Everyone in NJ or even near it should do themselves and everyone else a favor and SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE LAWS. The NJ assembly and senate have already defied christie's attempted even stricter laws in response to the will of the people. Now is the time to do something, do not let it slide past with 10% thc caps and no home growing, along with a 2 oz a month limit.

STARTING NOW!!!!!
I propose we all flood the above address--Submit written comments by April 23, 2011 to:
Devon L. Graf, Director
Office of Legal and Regulatory Compliance
Office of the Commissioner
New Jersey Department of Health and Senior Services
PO Box 360
Trenton, NJ 08625-0360


and give our opinions. please try to be lucid and clear and direct. I propose a couple ideas here feel free to use them. I do not think we can be shooting for the moon, but some of these are reasonable.

1. Allow patients to grow 6 Mature plants and 12 overall. Include strict rules about door locks and security systems if you want.
2. Remove the cap on thc. Every other drug is dosed as prescribed by a doctor, We should instead seperate under 10% strains into a slightly different category. Doctors could decide if the patient needed the higher dose or not.
3. Allow ATCs to use edible forms of THC, and to educate about vaporizing buds, as traditional smoking is not ideal for patients.

add whatever you want, the point is ACT NOW. Otherwise we will get stuck with some bullshit. our representatives actually care more about what we think than what the governor thinks for once, we need to take advantage of this.

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Best of luck to you friend. Hopefully there will come a day when we need not fear being arrested for growing cannabis.

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https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._criticiz.html

update on the Hearing

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TRENTON — For nearly two hours Monday, dozens of patients and their advocates — some through tears, others at the top of their lungs — vented their frustration at restrictions in the state’s proposed rules for New Jersey’s nascent medical marijuana program.

The only person who testified in favor of the health department’s rules was a spokesman from Meadowlands Hospital in Secaucus, who disclosed the hospital had created a nonprofit group and applied to be a licensed grower and seller of state-sanctioned marijuana.

The remaining 100 minutes of the hearing in Trenton was devoted criticizing the Christie administration’s proposals.


Riding a scooter to the podium, multiple sclerosis patient Sandy Faiola of Asbury Park questioned why the state wants to limit the potency of the drug sold to 10 percent tetrahydrocannabinol. "Cannabis with THC levels of 10 percent or less may help some patient’s needs but not mine," said Faiola, who suffers from severe muscle spasms and pain.

Medical marijuana's future in New Jersey Medical marijuana's future in New Jersey With so little information about how New Jersey's program will work, The Star-Ledger visited two states with very different cannabis laws -- New Mexico, which the New Jersey Legislature looks to as a model of a responsible medical marijuana program, and Colorado, which has lax laws and is seen by some as a state that has lost control. (Video by John Munson / The Star-Ledger) Watch video
She also said it was "excessive" to charge a $200 fee on caregivers who agree to retrieve a housebound patient’s marijuana from a dispensary.

"My primary caregiver already spends many hours a month helping me do things like travel to appointments and pick up medicine, food and other things I need. Asking her to also pay $200 for a New Jersey permit in order to help me get this medicine is wrong," Faiola said.

Crohn’s disease sufferer Stephen Cuspilich of Southampton questioned why doctors must take courses in drug addiction, recommend pot for patients only after traditional remedies have failed, and promise to wean patients off marijuana as quickly possible.

"You’re putting these flaming hoops and hurdles in front of everybody to get this medication — me and everyone else,’’ Cuspilich said. "You need to stop thinking about the business of the law and think about the intent of the law, which is compassion.’’

Lobbyist Raj Mukherji, who represents Meadowlands Hosptial and its new organization, Compassion Care Centers of America Foundation, complimented the administration for planning to gather data on how the drug helps patients and what strain and potency works best.

This "clinically-based medical model, focused on patient outcomes and data analysis, sets New Jersey apart from the other states," he said. He said the administration should not limit the number of plant strains to six because more variety would make it easier to "measure clinical outcomes."

The hearing, though required before the state can adopt new rules, might be for naught. Democrats who control the Legislature are close to overturning the health department’s regulations, and either order the administration to start over or writing the rules itself.
interesting video done by the Star-Ledger paper
has interview with the bill's writer as well in here. worth checking it out.
Ok im trying to link to the vid, but its a java thing on the page above. cant link to it.
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With so little information about how New Jersey's program will work, The Star-Ledger visited two states with very different cannabis laws -- New Mexico, which the New Jersey Legislature looks to as a model of a responsible medical marijuana program, and Colorado, which has lax laws and is seen by some as a state that has lost control. (Video by John Munson / The Star-Ledger)
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Best of luck to you friend. Hopefully there will come a day when we need not fear being arrested for growing cannabis.

RON PAUL 2012!! The ONLY candidate who will allow med. marijuana to continue.

To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. – Thomas Jefferson

There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpation. – James Madison

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The hearing, though required before the state can adopt new rules, might be for naught. Democrats who control the Legislature are close to overturning the health department’s regulations, and either order the administration to start over or writing the rules itself.
i think it is important we pay close attention to this fact. WE MUST send letters to the legislature. WE MUST capitalize on this momentum. WE MUST get better laws.

I re-propose my 3 ideas from the first post as a starting point. WE MUST be clear headed when writing. Do not sound like cheech and chongs love child. This is not a joke. there's already articles about all the pothead sounding applications to grow in NJ WITH SPECIFIC QUOTES!. Do not add more, it makes us look dumb.

Please, feel free to add ideas here, no matter where you are from, as long as you keep it sensible. This is our chance. If we get enough people to have a halfway clear set of new rules write into the Legis, we have a chance. The dems HATE christie. He is a fucking asswipe anyway, have you seen his grandstanding on TV lately? "I would win if i ran for prez". Let us use our chance people.

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Best of luck to you friend. Hopefully there will come a day when we need not fear being arrested for growing cannabis.

RON PAUL 2012!! The ONLY candidate who will allow med. marijuana to continue.

To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. – Thomas Jefferson

There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpation. – James Madison

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Old 03-10-2011, 03:52 AM #5
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here's one, how about we offer them mandatory minimum sentences for anyone caught reselling medical weed or dispensing it to a minor(who does not have a prescription as per the rules)? Something awfully harsh, like 5 years.

pros:
it doesnt affect me, or legitimate patients
Keeps it away from "the children"
makes the legislature seem tough on crime
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none.
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Best of luck to you friend. Hopefully there will come a day when we need not fear being arrested for growing cannabis.

RON PAUL 2012!! The ONLY candidate who will allow med. marijuana to continue.

To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. – Thomas Jefferson

There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpation. – James Madison

When the government fears the people, it is liberty. When the people fear the government, it is tyranny. – Thomas Paine
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cool thread. K+ "do not sound like cheech and chong's lovechild" lol
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Good Luck NJ! & Nice post MadBuddhaAbuser.
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thanks guys. Hopefully residents will see this and write in.

cuz it's important.
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Best of luck to you friend. Hopefully there will come a day when we need not fear being arrested for growing cannabis.

RON PAUL 2012!! The ONLY candidate who will allow med. marijuana to continue.

To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. – Thomas Jefferson

There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpation. – James Madison

When the government fears the people, it is liberty. When the people fear the government, it is tyranny. – Thomas Paine
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Gotta bump this after hearing NJ announced who obtained licenses to run their 6 ATCs. Also read how at least 3 groups have members with direct ties to the governor, Chris Christie. Hmmmm.....corrupt....seems like that's how NJ likes to do things.

Medical programs seem to be taking a hit everywhere. Hopefully people complain and the regulations are re-written. Fight the good fight NJ!
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