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Auxigrow, Glycolic Acid and GABA
Anyone heard about this? It is a brand name that:
"...is a mixture of equal parts gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA), casein hydrolysate and glutamic acid dissolved in water." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxigro Here is an excerpt from the U.S. patent page with the results of GABA alone on various plant stresses (pathogenic, nutrient etc) vs. Auxigrow. Note that none of the pictures/images/graphs work despite this being a government website that is supposed to provide transparency lol... Quote:
Also stumbled upon something called (ammonium salt of) glycolic acid that does the following: (the ammonium salt version seems more effective than glycolic acid alone) "It has been discovered that application of glycolic acid, or a salt thereof, or a mixture thereof, to plants increases the resistance of the plants to the effects of plant stress. Such increased resistance includes the ability of the plants to tolerate the effects of plant stress. It has also unexpectedly been discovered that application of an ammonium salt of glycolic acid stimulates plant growth more than an equivalent amount of glycolic acid alone. Yet another unexpected discovery is that glycolic acid has microbial growth-promoting effects, and that the ammonium salt of glycolic acid stimulates microbial growth more than equivalent amounts of glycolic acid alone. In one aspect of the invention, a method includes treating a plant with glycolic acid, a salt thereof, or a mixture thereof, in an amount effective to increase the resistance of the plant to the effects of plant stress. Source: https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF &p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND &d=PTXT&s1=auxigro&OS=auxigro& RS=auxigro
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cool, GABA is a sleep aid for humans, you can buy it at any health food store
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thanks for the awesome info, i've already sourced ingredients (the ones i didnt already have). now im thinking about use in conjunction with brassinolide and jasmonic acid.
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dbl post. my bad...
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Trevor,
be informed that brassinolide is an antagonist of jasmonic acid. You may very well negate any improvement with that combination. GA3, TRIA and JAZ used in folar backed up with GA3 and TRIA in the tank have shown the best results for the addition of resin. I will be adding Spermine and or Spermidine along with the former components but will not have the results for another 4 months. Cannabis is very strain dependent, but I go with the odds until I'm left with no alternative. Brassinolide and Jaz would be trying to beat those odds. This is the road that I've used. Peace |
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This past week CA removed PBZ and some other items from the shelf. Out went Phosphoload, Bushmaster, Gravity and other similar bloom products. People must be misusing the products. If I can get the final list I'll post them for you. I suspect other areas will do the same. After all we can't think for ourselves, the government must do it for us.
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thanks SP,
i didnt intend on using jaz and brass throughout flowering. i was thinking about 1 or 2 foliar applications of jaz during week 6 or 7, after growth is starts slowing to hopefully bulk up glandular density. i've been reluctant to use ga3 for fear of severe stretching, but i planned on researching it more and testing it in the future. in reality ive just begun studying pgr's and plant biology, where you seem pretty well versed. thanks again for the warning |
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Week 6 and & 7 is way too late to apply Jazz unless your growing a 16 week sativa
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thanks SS,
looks like ive still got a shit ton of studying to do before i can start any serious trials |
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"Triacontanol (TRIA), a long chain aliphatic alcohol (C30H61OH) reverses the effect of jasmonic acid (JA) in inducing proteinase inhibitors (PIs) in tomato leaves. Porcine pancreas trypsin and Spodoptera litura gut proteinases were inhibited in the presence of leaf proteins treated with JA, and TRIA partially reverses this effect. Spodoptera litura larvae fed with tomato leaves treated with JA were reduced in body weight and TRIA is able to partially reverse this JA-induced effect. These results reflect the partial reversal effect of TRIA in down regulating the JA-induced production of proteinase inhibitors. " https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract "Two down-regulated genes were identified as those encoding an ABA- and stress-related protein and a wounding-related protein. These results suggested that TRIA up-regulated the photosynthesis process and suppressed stresses in rice plants." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract sound like antagonists to me. you got any scientific verification for your statements? personally i hope you're right so i wouldnt have to stretch my JAZ and TRIA applications so far apart, it be nice to get the best of both worlds there but it seems to be otherwise. and hows that spermidine treating your ladies? |
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