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Old 01-27-2011, 02:57 AM #11
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HERES THE FACTS:

Rockwool more stable, consistent, no bugs, less prep, etc etc...

really only beenfit to coco over wool is that it is re-usable... both are HIGHLY oxygenated mediums that will end in the the same results.. There is no better currently information that is FACT than that LOL.

COCO has some antifungal properties that some say make it a better choice than wool as you can use beneficials that you can't use in wool, but you can sterilze wool which is arguably as effective as a myco laden rootzone, per the proper nutrient ratios and levels being available to the plant.
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For me coco wins because of its forgiving nature.

If I am away for the house and miss a day of watering (or two. . . or three) everything is okay. With rock wool on an automatic drip system, if a pump fails, or a hose breaks. that's then end of your grow.

I still use rock wool for cloning though, but many people report better results with cloning in coco as well. I'll have to try it some day.
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Ask poopyteabags, apparently he's had great success with coco
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:17 AM #14
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Benefits of Coco vs Rockwool (External Link)

https://www.livestrong.com/article/28...r-vs-rockwool/

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Good coco starting point:

https://www.integralhydro.com/cocoscience.html

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-Coir has a very strong cation exchange ability, which means it can hold and release nutrient elements based on the plants needs.
-Coir tends to release potassium and to withhold calcium.
-Coir tends to retain nutrient salts. because of this, less nutrient (lower ec) is required.
-On a less positive note, coir can also contain high levels of sodium (salt)....If your growing in coir be aware that this can be a potential problem.
-Either purchase a pre-flushed coir product or flush ph (5.5-6.0) stabilised water through the coir prior to use.
-Measure the ec of the water and then measure the ec of the run off. When they are the same, it is ready for use.
-Large amounts of potassium are naturally present in coir.
-Potassium competes with calcium and magnesium... buffering and plant nutrition needs to compensate for this!!

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This is the basis of a killer coco regime imho:
(Stuff in italics is what I use)

1. Base Nutrient - I prefer Canna Coco A+B, Hesi and H&G are also good. As long as it has a suitable NPK and a full range of chelated trace elements it will work in coco, I've used all kinds of stuff with success, even Tomato Feed.

(GH Micro/Bloom 6/9 H3ad Formula)

2. Seaweed Extract - I like Vitax, Maxicrop will also do, plenty of trace elements, aminos, vitamins etc.

(Floralicious Plus)

3. Humic/Fulvic - my current preference is for DutchMaster Max Bloom as it also has phospholipids giving it an NPK of 0.114-2-3

(Rare Earth/Floralicious Plus)

4. Liquid Silicon - AN Barricade is the most concentrated, I've used several brands with success

(Rare Earth)

5. PK Booster - Canna PK13/14 is good although I find AN Hammerhead gives a little bit more resin.

(GH KoolBloom Liquid/Dry)

6. Molasses - Enhances flavour, acts as chelating agent, feeds good microbes, has trace elements and a fair bit of K, just fantastic stuff.

(Crosby's Blackstrap Molasses)

To me that is all you need to produce top notch product in coco, handwater daily ensuring at least 15% runoff, keep PH around 5.7-6.0, just don't need to complicate it beyond that.
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:21 AM #15
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Not necessarily transferable but for what it's worth, all the tomato greenhouse growers where Im from switched to coco from rockwool. With them bottom line is increasing yield and minimizing cost, so if everyone switched you know damn well there is a reason.
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hahaha seems like we have reached a consensus

coco>rockwool

I buy the expensive pre-washed canna and Bcuzz coco brands
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The stacks of unused rockwool cubes and strips in the closet tell the story.

Coco all the way, no question about it.
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Well I just realized that I posted this question on the coco forum so the responses that have been received are less than surprising. Haha well thanks guys I really appreciate everyones input.
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