[inreplyavalon]

Hey guys and gals. These photos are of three seeds i pulled out of a mob boss grow last round. Have been trying to figure out if they were self pollinated or if they are a hybrid from another plant in the room?

Here are the clues:
Only developed seeds in the room came out of one small bud on a mob boss, and another plant next to the mob boss. One of the seed plants this round looks nearly identical to the mob boss the seeds came from, where as the other two are very different, structurally and scent wise. What do you guys think? I'll show some photos.

The original plant that i found the seeds in.


The offspring plant that looks similar



this offspring differs from the last, with smaller less dense buds, long stem leafs, and narrow bladed leaves. same height and both were very branchy.


This is a shot of the last two plants next to each other.


and the third plant is way different, with SUPER fat bladed leaves, and a bad nute sensitivity




I KNOW ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY FOR CERTAIN WHICH PLANT, OR IF IT WAS THE SAME PLANT, THAT POLLINATED HER, BUT IS FUN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, AND THE FIRST OFFSPRING ABOVE IS DANK AND WILL BE GROWN AGAIN. ALL THESE PLANTS ARE BEING CHECKED REGULARLY FOR BANANAS...

[303hydro]

It might help to know what the other plant was but I would guess with only 3 beans you probably got an S1 light leak bean which looks awesome btw.

[inreplyavalon]

well there were a lot of other plants in the room, like ten other strains and lots of phenotypes of the ten strains.
I found a total of 9 seeds all in the same small bud. I don't know much bout breeding at the moment, but it seems that the bud was almost pollinated from the inside, making it selfed.

The one that looks so nice flowering, has looked like a champion from the start. Sturdy, great brancing, tight node spacing, frosty as hell, dense and likely fire smoke. Just like it's mob boss mama.

[big ballin 88]

To me it can be an S1, you get some S1's that vary from the mother plant in a small way such as your reporting. Than again i dont have experience with selfing. It just seems weird to get 3 variations.

[inreplyavalon]

Originally Posted by big ballin 88

To me it can be an S1, you get some S1's that vary from the mother plant in a small way such as your reporting. Than again i dont have experience with selfing. It just seems weird to get 3 variations.

Thanks for taking a guess bigballin.
i would call it more than small variations. Really the only similarity that i am finding is that they are all branchy plants. Each of the three have a different leaf structure, bud structure and size, and smell. Seems like a lot of variation for a Selfed plant, no? One of them is turning a bit purple and its the one with the extra fat looking leaves. Wondering if maybe it was the sandstorm that i pulled from the room that had a banana on it...
Anyway one of the plants is looking VERY strong in lots of categories.

I'll know better when i eventually pop the other 7 or so seeds.

[big ballin 88]

Sorry i didnt have enough time before to take a good look at the pics(Had to grab dinner)

I still behind my guess. The first two look identical from those photos i see, just maybe a little bit of inconsistency with bud size. The third one does look much different from the first two.

Due to what you say and can actually see i'd be led to believe it could be a new cross. Pictures dont do enough justice in some cases though.

Have you done breeding inside your grow rooms before? Any males before? A little pollen can find its way to the buds sometimes...Its happened to me and i end up with an accidental seed or two...

[inreplyavalon]

Originally Posted by big ballin 88

Sorry i didnt have enough time before to take a good look at the pics(Had to grab dinner)

I still behind my guess. The first two look identical from those photos i see, just maybe a little bit of inconsistency with bud size. The third one does look much different from the first two.

Due to what you say and can actually see i'd be led to believe it could be a new cross. Pictures dont do enough justice in some cases though.

Have you done breeding inside your grow rooms before? Any males before? A little pollen can find its way to the buds sometimes...Its happened to me and i end up with an accidental seed or two...

Hey dude you are right that two of them look real similar in the photos. Same shape, nearly exactly. Difference in bud density and mass, and smell. Yeah and the third grows like a tall 100% indica, or bubba looking girl.
Anyhow its fun trying to figure this puzzle out, thanks for helping.

[inreplyavalon]

forgot to answer you questions....

Never done breeding in that space before, though the room has been used to search through many different seeds and phenotypes. Often ten different strains at once, and multiple phenos of each. Variety is the spice of life
though bananas will rear their yellow heads eventually when dealing with so many different seeds

[big ballin 88]

Originally Posted by inreplyavalon

forgot to answer you questions....

Never done breeding in that space before, though the room has been used to search through many different seeds and phenotypes. Often ten different strains at once, and multiple phenos of each. Variety is the spice of life
though bananas will rear their yellow heads eventually when dealing with so many different seeds

I agree variety is what keeps me going. Even in my small 15"x15" i keep 9 plants going. But thats why i say a little pollen can go a long way. I found some seeds recently in my Ultra Sonja which was weird considering that no pollination went on at the time and the males were chopped at first site.

If you can get me a full plant pic i can give you a definitive answer on this. Even the third plant does look similar to the other 2 with just a very little variation in leaf size.

[inreplyavalon]

here are two of them at day 61. The smells are telling me they are S1's. But one of them grows like a tall Bubba Kush. Very Indica. It is not pictured here.