[beanja]

Vegging with T5's is not slow, you just gotta have the right spectrum, just like cfl's.The new T5's are the best tube lights available especially if you use the high output lamps.Nobody is knocking Mdanzig period, i just tried to give him a heads up that the bou is selling bad quality seeds of blue streak. Some were pale, some were a little darker, some were big some were small. Had to eventually pre crack seeds to get tap root to show, once sprouted slow to grow and no vigor.

[Dr.Dank]

this is a road runner auto hope you don't mind

this plants are under T5 they seem to be growing fine.. this grow is long done back when i was in fl.


this last ones are bubble berry auto
Im growing bubblelicious auto at the moment under florecent

this White Widows where a month old from germination when i took this under T5 florecent
Hope this helps.

[Krull]

T5 rocks Dr Dank, i'm only saying that they veg a little slower in my experience so a slow start is nothing to worry about.
Just trying to help.

Peace

=K

[BotanicalBill]

While having no experience with BD at all, I'm on my 4th go-around with S60s, twice from orignal F1s and twice from F2s. On this 4th time around I did my original seeds in 100% fresh ocean forest, not cut at all, and they've done far better than any of the first three attempts which were various strength of guano-tea-based pro-mix.
To boot, since I was just going for a seed run this time they were grown in 32 oz. styrofoam cups, which is much smaller than what we'd normally run for a bud-run, and while they are a little shorter than they'd normally be, they are the healthiest run yet.

I bring this up because if I remember correctly, when I was first running these last year a lot of folks said they don't need a lot of ferts, and while I'm not saying they do, I will without a doubt from now on start S60s always in pure un-cut FFOF for at least the first 3 weeks until I start adding Grow Big or a bloom nute in the last 5.

beanja, my suggestion would be to hit a couple of your BD's with a much higher dose of ferts and see if you notice a difference. I was really light on my S60 F2s the second time around and they grew as you described. as soon as I blasted them with a high dose of Grow Big they exploded within a week and went totally green and lush from pale and tiny.. Unfortunately in my case they were already 1/2 way through their life but it was totally my fault for not realizing the problem. But the remedy was undeniable.. Give it a shot if you have a couple and hit with stronger ferts and let us know..

BB

[beanja]

Recieved sour 60 yesterday , in paper towel now. Once they crack i will put them in 1 gallon of my super soil. Made this soil up last year , stuff been cooking for a year almost , ph is perfect and plants love it.
Dr. Dank them T5's can sure veg plants, yours look great.
Here is a few vegging beauties, the plant bigger than the ladder is Mr. Nice Critical Mass and the other ones are querkle and a vortex vegging under T5's. Also I checked in a couple DWC vegging pics . Check out my mother plant top, would you like a 1000 C99 clones by any chance...lol

[Dr.Dank]

Originally Posted by beanja

Recieved sour 60 yesterday , in paper towel now. Once they crack i will put them in 1 gallon of my super soil. Made this soil up last year , stuff been cooking for a year almost , ph is perfect and plants love it.
Dr. Dank them T5's can sure veg plants, yours look great.
Here is a few vegging beauties, the plant bigger than the ladder is Mr. Nice Critical Mass and the other ones are querkle and a vortex vegging under T5's. Also I checked in a couple DWC vegging pics . Check out my mother plant top, would you like a 1000 C99 clones by any chance...lol

Very Nice ladies looking Beautiful, Im giving dwc a try again in a single bucket I have a tahoe Og cutting doing its thang
Have you Grown the Critical mass before? I love her I used to have her back in fl and always yielded the most... a lb in some and a little under on others.. very massive buds.. also dank and frosty.
I just started flowering maybe 4 critical masses? im not sure my garden is a jungle at the moment lol went a little crazy popping seeds in cali.

Hey you know what they say go big or go Home! haha let me find a warehouse and i'll let give those homeless clones a new place
all the best

[Buddle]

Pretty lame response from MDanzig..Oh well it is a seedy business.Not very good publicity though.I thought it was cheap of him to question your growing skills..A seed that won't grow in promix..isn't going to grow..lol..

[Dr.Dank]

Originally Posted by Buddle

Pretty lame response from MDanzig..Oh well it is a seedy business.Not very good publicity though.I thought it was cheap of him to question your growing skills..A seed that won't grow in promix..isn't going to grow..lol..

I know right??? i had a breeder do something similar to me.... with a bubbleberry... I told him I did everything by the books I have pop hundreds of whole packs from seedbay boo and other places... his seeds looked poor and slow some didn't germ.. I got 8-9 males all auto flowered and 2 auto females.. I compared to other seeds that i had germinated same date and posted them on here and did the comparison as how his seeds where bad and grew slow compared to all my others strains.. he try saying that my enviroment my lights and something else.. made them auto flowered... till i didn't give up I told him Bubbleberry was a strain i had around for a while I grew her for years and that I used to harvesty about 20-26 lbs of her a month before I lost the cutting....
he send me another bad seed... all crushed in the pack...
finally he send me some fem bubbleberrys nothing like the original because it was backed crossed with bubblegum and more bubblegum than anything..... The breeder tried.. and I thank him.. Thats why i ordered another pack of his strains.
but i did wasted a whole year trying to get nothing out of those packs... it fucking sucked.

If i was a seed breeder I would take a whole different approch to this seedy business....
I will be a breeder one day.... I made my first cross when i was 16-17 years old and I have a feeling i'll be making more soon
all the best.

[f1auto]

this problem regarding the seeds not popping due to the shell not breaking (having to by tweezers) is common with md seeds. He of course has questioned your growing method, your growing medium, and said how robust they normally are.
however the facts read differently this is a common problem with md seeds and his are some of the smallest and lowest yielding autos you can get

[indoor/outdoor]

I got 10 out of 10 with my BLUE STREAK.Some seeds looked to small though.