a self pollinated F1, what might pop out?

igrowone · May 8, 2013

xmobotx said:
how long is the flower time for this variety? did you already say that? lol ~i think you have the same camera i do

look'n quite feminine so far though eh?

looking very much like a lady, promising but not breathing easy until the cut
the seeds came from a brainwreck that matured at 10 weeks or so
the offspring seem similar, though i did get 1 that looked finished at 8 weeks
that was hideously strong in a bad way, don't like to think of it
cheapo vupoint camera, i do have a better one i have to figure out(eventually)

blastfrompast · May 14, 2013

So what about a natural non stressed hermi that polinates a female of unknown stability..but no hermi flowers seen on the female

I have a ziplock of these seeds...all plants were super fruity...hermi was pulled at 4weeks flower and disposed of..

What would be your prediction......semi-feminized with the chance of being a hermi...full blown hermi on everyone like the shemale parent.....?

I have been handing them out as freebies to friends who want to plant a few beans...

xmobotx · May 14, 2013

do it and contribute your observations to the discussion

igrowone · May 15, 2013

blastfrompast said:
So what about a natural non stressed hermi that polinates a female of unknown stability..but no hermi flowers seen on the female

I have a ziplock of these seeds...all plants were super fruity...hermi was pulled at 4weeks flower and disposed of..

What would be your prediction......semi-feminized with the chance of being a hermi...full blown hermi on everyone like the shemale parent.....?

I have been handing them out as freebies to friends who want to plant a few beans...

so far, what i see is a 50% chance of a good female
i don't think your chances will be any worse, may be better, but it's a definite crap shoot
if you're a grower that doesn't mind checking things very closey, they are worth a shot
no worse than reg seeds provided you were planning on tossing the males

igrowone · May 15, 2013

5 weeks already? looking and pondering the progress
seems like maturity is slowing a little
could be lower temps, grow space is in under heated area

SooperSmurph · May 15, 2013

I self pollinated an F1 (Dr Atomic's NL x BB), picked the best of the best from that group, pollinated the original from that generation, the result was my SmurphBerry Jam.

Grows and smells a lot like "Blue Dream", but with a much more subtle bouquet as it cures, yields are heavy and potency is quite high.

This winning cut was generated from 15 popped seeds of the S2 generation, started by another grower in prep for my takeover of "The Studio" last year.

Your mileage may vary.

burns1n209 · May 15, 2013

great experiment you got going Igrow, thanks for keeping it going for this long nice to see a good study done.

igrowone · May 18, 2013

^^^ glad to have some more company, thanks for peeking in
i did have a grower who posted on this topic(somewhere) who mentioned that selfing was an excellent way to introspect the genetics of a plant
the parent brainwreck had vegetation that smelled like garbage, but bud that had a perfume kind of smell
this plant's vegetation has little if any smell, but i just got a whiff of the perfume today after a bud rubbing, it's that same perfume smell!
so distinctive a odor, looks like i may have isolated a trait that could be worth keeping

igrowone · May 21, 2013

6 weeks and the genetic picture is clearer
no hermie trait and an odor that was in the parent, very perfume like
more sativa in the bud shape, getting some spears, bud leaf also more on the sativa side
i'd say 4 more weeks, and production may be better than the others i'd had

igrowone · May 29, 2013

7 weeks, no roosters, and a lot of green
usually see some loss of color in the fans by this time
so i think weeks yet
and smells a bit like spearmint, sweet odor, but only when touched

hansNfrans · Jun 2, 2013

Nice Study!! i had a few beans from a hermied chemdog dclonexsd ibl. wanted to grow them out but didnt know if it was worth it. Def. going to be watching to see how yours turns out!

igrowone · Jun 2, 2013

^^^ good luck with those, from the sound of the genetics i'd think your chances of a nice pheno are good
when i read about these type of seeds, it fell into 2 groups
1 group had actually tried some grows of this seed type, results sounded as least as good as other seed grows
the other group are those that have not grown these type of seeds because they think they are worthless, but comment as if they had grown them

FoCo(No.Co) · Jun 2, 2013

Anyone know why words like selection and dominant are automatically italicized on this forum? I'd like to use words like these but dont want to look like an italicizing douche.

igrowone · Jun 2, 2013

these words seemed to be linked to a glossary, had noticed it before but never bothered to click a link

igrowone · Jun 4, 2013

was looking over the girl up close, just making sure that all was well
couple of interesting things, 1 being the side buds look pretty good, maybe better than average
actually noticed that a good sized branch/bud has formed at the junction of the first true leaves
i don't believe i've had that before
but the kicker was some tiny buds forming at the coytledon leaf junction!
now that i've never seen before

igrowone · Jun 5, 2013

8 weeks, definitely a different result from what i am used to
not a trace of color loss in the fans
and the color in the pic is quite close, dark green to an almost black tint
no way is this being cut soon, 2 weeks at least i think
sativa influences? the buds are more spear than club

igrowone · Jun 12, 2013

9 weeks, time for a closer look since it doesn't look ripe
and the close look showed a few banana's! shock and horror - thought i was home free
however, just a few at the tips of a few buds
not like the parent which grew 'em at nearly every branch junction
i have read some strains throw a few nanners at the end, but don't do much damage
i see no damage, harvest will reveal all

xmobotx · Jun 12, 2013

those bananas can go either way too ~sometimes they are sterile but; even if a little pollen drops, you should be close enough now it wont make much difference right? what w/ a week or so to go

igrowone · Jun 12, 2013

xmobotx said:
those bananas can go either way too ~sometimes they are sterile but; even if a little pollen drops, you should be close enough now it wont make much difference right? what w/ a week or so to go

true, it's probably not going to be too big a deal, but we all like our pristine, seedless buds

igrowone · Jun 19, 2013

10 weeks, maturity is setting in properly
fan leaves losing pigment, side buds are filling in
this will be a decent yielder, the 1st good yielder of these S1 seeds
the trichomes are still clear though, even up high
so another week i says, hoping that's all that's needed

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