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Old 07-04-2011, 05:18 PM #31
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Great to see this go down. Thanks for documenting it also as I have been interested in this too. We have a MangoHaze that put out three seeds last year at the bottom, so "what the hell right?" popped em and one just blew the others away came out female and is now almost six feet tall. Cloned and backed up but smells just like momdad. Eyes peeled for nanners later, but so far so good. Thanks again for starting this. NS
Thanks for your post, who knows how many grows like these we will see? I got interested from the few results I had seen posted. A lot of non hermies seem to spring from hermies.
Now I do see there are cases where the hermie trait will dominate. Other times, not so much. From my minimal genetics knowledge, I'd be skeptical as calling the hermie trait being a 'dominant' type of trait. It seems to be more complicated than that.
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Thanks for the thread and work documenting your results.
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glad it worked out for ya .we know very little about hermies as far as i am concerned. i have just had 2 male sour bubble plants turn herm and pollinate themselves. i will be trying those seeds for sure
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thread still kicking, so i'll mention how it smokes

in short, as good as any of the breeder seeds i've tried so far
it strongly resembled the parent in appearance, almost clone close
smell was somewhat different, much lower than parent, but vaguely similar
after 3 weeks of cure, still low odor with a bit of the dryer sheet odor
but the taste is very good, much better than the parent
some kind of fruit peel, maybe some tangerine in there
it tastes nothing like it smells, which is bit mysterious to me

i had been using cfl's that were past their prime, so yields weren't high
about 3/4 of a zip, which means i really need another female
so another hermie(aka cheap feminized) seed has been sprouted, about 500 left to go
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Nice work...helps us rookies, when something like this happens to us...Had a NorCal Daddy's Girl go hermie was told its a first for it...Havent had time to throw them down yet, but I will..Got lots of seeds of her/it to try...
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:13 AM #36
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TreeTops, glad to give you some hope, if you do try them, feel free to post results here
which brings me to the current 'experiment'
the 2nd run, and something more sativa(maybe)
the early leaves were more indica, but the plant width and # of nodes say sativa
it's still a mystery, but if stable like the last try, then it's all good
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:55 PM #37
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1 week of flower

i think the genetics of the plant are addicting
much enjoying in seeing some traits pop out, and some new ones
this run looks like an interesting mix of sativa/indica
looking very sativa leaf wise, but very compact like an indica
but is it stable? there's the rub
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day 47

the 2nd run of this S1 hermie seed
1st time was a hermie free grow
back to earth for the 2nd seed, hermied just like the parent
i was prepared this time(kind of), been plucking roosters everyday
bud looks mostly unfertilized, but a few seeds is acceptable
one observation, the scent of this plant is very similar to parent, are the 2 traits linked?
i doubt there is an answer, but was worth putting out there
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Cool thread, so you flowered and are done with the first seed you grew out..
and germed another one? but this time... herms.

interesting... I have a strain thats like that.. maybe 1 seed every QP
she hermied and pollinated another strain of WW
so I grew that seed out CP x WW and she was a beast grew fast, and without nutrients... no male flowers... but was very very prone to Powdery Mildew didn't make it to flower.. yet.

Its all a dice roll, but chances are it should be 75% just like the parent plant right from hermied self pollinated seeds?
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Hermaphroditic tendencies in cannabis are controlled by the genes of the parental plants. The severity of how much a plant shows intersex, aka hermaphrodite, is dependent on how dominant the trait is in each parent and how the genetic map shakes out during the recombination of the parental genes during meiosis.

A mother plant may well display the hermie trait, but it may be that the trait is held in it's genetic map in latent fashion. In other words, the rest of that particular mother plants siblings may not display the trait at all...because they all hold the trait as a latent trait.
Similarly, a mother plant may well not show any hermie at all....however it could hold the hermie gene in dominance and we simply don't see it with that single plant. It's sibling seeds may well produce a majority of plants that display hermie.

Without knowing the dominance, or latency, of a particular trait in each individual parent plant (such as the intersex trait), there is no way we can simply assign a percentage of what will be produced in a cross.

Assuming the B is the hermie trait....with "B" dominant and "b" latent....
aB x AB cross will produce a higher percentage of hermie trait progeny than say a Ab x ab cross.

As a basic rule of thumb, an F1 cross will produce plants in a 1:3:1 ratio. 1 like mom, 1 like dad, and 3 being a mixture of the two. Use the above info coupled with this to figure a guestimation.
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