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smellychronic · 01-11-2011, 03:38 AM

Thanks Microbeman

mad librettist · 01-11-2011, 04:50 PM

I have found neptune's harvest regular does a good job as a feedstock in tea.

HighonPottery · 01-11-2011, 08:03 PM

i made the switch from liquid fish emulsions to dry fish hydrolysate after discovering it about 6 months ago in the bulk bins at a local hydro store and have noticed a much better response from the plants. that, along with dry kelp extract and my plants have never been happier! AND it doesn't smell as bad.

i've only had ONE issue with the fish hydrolysate and it's this: hydro store packages it in ziplock baggies when you buy it from their bulk bins...during the hotter months, i'll crack my garage door to allow a little more airflow in the garage...well, one day I guess I cracked the door a little too much and the neighbor's cat squeezed underneath after smelling the delicious fish emitting through the plastic - i freaking jumped out of my shoes when i walked into the garage and saw/heard something large moving around in my overhead storage and smelled fish hydrolysate which was spread all over my workstation, lol. damn cats - quit shitting in my garden!!!(fist shake)

Microbeman · 01-12-2011, 01:45 AM

Better quality fish hydrolysate is in liquid form.

GeorgeSmiley · 01-12-2011, 01:57 AM

I use Eco Nutrients Fish hydro..... seems to be really good stuff so far.

$10 a gallon at my local supply

https://www.econutrients.com/

Smiley

guest2012y · 01-12-2011, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeSmiley

I use Eco Nutrients Fish hydro..... seems to be really good stuff so far.

$10 a gallon at my local supply

https://www.econutrients.com/

Smiley

Me too

Compared to Neptune's at $30 or more per gallon,Eco nutrients Fish Hydro is prepared in the same method and is just as good.

01-12-2011, 10:59 PM

I use both hydrolysate and emulation. The emultion I use is the typical 5-1-1 and the hydrol is 2-5-1, so based on what I use, they are not the same product at all or used in the same way. I'm sure there are different npk's for either though.

That being said, I use Drammatic "O" https://www.dramm.com/html/main.isx?sub=5 and it works wonderfully. It is OMRI listed as are most of the Drammatic products. I mostly use just amended soil but sometimes I need to bump up the P in mid-late flowering and this does that well. I have used it even just a couple weeks before harvest and no adverse smells or taste. I use it at full strength 2 oz per gal and could probably go stronger without any burning. It is a great product and although it doesn't work super fast it is a good way to correct deficiencies in organic soil or would likely be a great part of a feeding regime. I've been experimenting with it in attempts to increase harvest weights in my current round so I may have more to say in a few weeks.

spurr · 01-13-2011, 01:58 AM

Organic Gem is really good, I like it better than others I have tried (I have not tried the brand MM suggested): https://www.organicgem.com/

spurr · 01-13-2011, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by George Smiley

I use Eco Nutrients Fish hydro..... seems to be really good stuff so far.

$10 a gallon at my local supply

https://www.econutrients.com/

Smiley

Me too

Compared to Neptune's at $30 or more per gallon,Eco nutrients Fish Hydro is prepared in the same method and is just as good.

Two question for you guys:

1. Have you tried Organic Gem? If so, can you compare/contrast both products? Both products seem high quality, more so than Neptune's Harvest (even though I have not had any problems from Neptune's).

2. Have you tried EcoNutrints fish bone soil amendment? I just noticed it, and it looks interesting, I like how they are using/selling all parts of their fish. I am not worried about P or Ca levels in media, but that product did catch my eye, it's the first of its kind I have ever seen sold retail (besides fish bone meal).

guest2012y · 01-13-2011, 03:42 AM

Hey spur whaz up, No I haven't tried Organic Gem,I haven't seen a bottle of that around anywhere out here,nor am I exactly sure where the fish bone meal comes from that we also get. We acquire most of our stuff from a pretty large company call 'Concentrates' Inc'...they've been in bizz since 1938. There are a few other smaller suppliers around but I also suspect they get their stuff from the same place. The thing that allows me to tell if it's a quality product is the smell of the product itself. It smells fresh...like fresh fish compared to cat food.
Eco-nutes fish hydro is a high quality product and I'm very pleased with the results using it for ACT and as directed on the label. https://www.concentratesnw.com/

01-11-2011, 08:03 PM	#13
HighonPottery Jack Ball #420 "Rasta Jack" Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 408	i made the switch from liquid fish emulsions to dry fish hydrolysate after discovering it about 6 months ago in the bulk bins at a local hydro store and have noticed a much better response from the plants. that, along with dry kelp extract and my plants have never been happier! AND it doesn't smell as bad. i've only had ONE issue with the fish hydrolysate and it's this: hydro store packages it in ziplock baggies when you buy it from their bulk bins...during the hotter months, i'll crack my garage door to allow a little more airflow in the garage...well, one day I guess I cracked the door a little too much and the neighbor's cat squeezed underneath after smelling the delicious fish emitting through the plastic - i freaking jumped out of my shoes when i walked into the garage and saw/heard something large moving around in my overhead storage and smelled fish hydrolysate which was spread all over my workstation, lol. damn cats - quit shitting in my garden!!!(fist shake) __________________ Don't over think it
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01-12-2011, 01:45 AM	#14
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01-13-2011, 03:42 AM	#20
guest2012y Living with the soil Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Forested area Posts: 2,926	Hey spur whaz up, No I haven't tried Organic Gem,I haven't seen a bottle of that around anywhere out here,nor am I exactly sure where the fish bone meal comes from that we also get. We acquire most of our stuff from a pretty large company call 'Concentrates' Inc'...they've been in bizz since 1938. There are a few other smaller suppliers around but I also suspect they get their stuff from the same place. The thing that allows me to tell if it's a quality product is the smell of the product itself. It smells fresh...like fresh fish compared to cat food. Eco-nutes fish hydro is a high quality product and I'm very pleased with the results using it for ACT and as directed on the label. https://www.concentratesnw.com/ __________________ BMR in flower https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=170303 Topsoil in the soil mix https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=153542 Provider for cardholders organic medicine and organic medicated edibles..."we're primed and we're ready to go toe to toe with disease"
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01-11-2011, 03:38 AM	#11
smellychronic Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 116	Thanks Microbeman
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01-11-2011, 04:50 PM	#12
mad librettist Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,120	I have found neptune's harvest regular does a good job as a feedstock in tea.
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GeorgeSmiley Remembers Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ya can't get there from here Posts: 1,865	I use Eco Nutrients Fish hydro..... seems to be really good stuff so far. $10 a gallon at my local supply https://www.econutrients.com/ Smiley
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01-12-2011, 10:59 PM	#17
zen_trikester Guest Posts: n/a	I use both hydrolysate and emulation. The emultion I use is the typical 5-1-1 and the hydrol is 2-5-1, so based on what I use, they are not the same product at all or used in the same way. I'm sure there are different npk's for either though. That being said, I use Drammatic "O" https://www.dramm.com/html/main.isx?sub=5 and it works wonderfully. It is OMRI listed as are most of the Drammatic products. I mostly use just amended soil but sometimes I need to bump up the P in mid-late flowering and this does that well. I have used it even just a couple weeks before harvest and no adverse smells or taste. I use it at full strength 2 oz per gal and could probably go stronger without any burning. It is a great product and although it doesn't work super fast it is a good way to correct deficiencies in organic soil or would likely be a great part of a feeding regime. I've been experimenting with it in attempts to increase harvest weights in my current round so I may have more to say in a few weeks.
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01-13-2011, 01:58 AM	#18
spurr Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: https://www.scirus.com/ & https://www.google.com/schhp?hl=en Posts: 2,431	Organic Gem is really good, I like it better than others I have tried (I have not tried the brand MM suggested): https://www.organicgem.com/
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