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zhugeliang · 01-27-2006, 08:13 AM

Can anyone tell me what this is? The leaf has an almost rubbery feel to it but healthy feeling at the same time, if you know what that means. =/ The hole in the leaf looks as if it was popped through, like the leaf curled so much that the plant just split itself at the seams. I understand that when leaves curl like that it means that the heat is getting to be too much but the heat in my grow is max at 90 and most the time between 78 to 85 degrees. The plant is being grown in a bubbler and it is about 1 week into flower. A few of the other bigger leaves have these rusty looking spots about them too. Spread all out. I should say more like 2 leaves have that crap on them. I cut one off before but now these other 2 big ass fan leaves are getting them. I would take pictures of those too but my camera phone is wiggity weak and I have to cut the plant to get a good picture. I grew the plant from seed so insects are pretty much not in the picture although I did check thoroughly before posting. It doesn't look to be something that might kill the plant but I am just wonder just what the hell is this crap?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

01-27-2006, 08:26 AM

my gues is overfert, or ph fluctuation, either way its time to pull out the meters!

00420 · 01-27-2006, 12:26 PM

the rusty spots that u have sounds like a mg dif......

add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of epsomsalt...

the leaf curl u have looks to be over watering.....
in dwc my guess is its lack of o2 witch is from heat more then likely.
water temp's not room temp more then likly u will in counter root rot if the temps keep up

zhugeliang · 01-28-2006, 12:32 PM

Okay, I went out and got some Epsom Salt and added 1/2 tsp a gallon and after I see a little better looking plant I will decrease it to 1/4. As far as the temps of the water I got around 70-73 degrees. The water did look waaaaaay darker then it usually does though so I flushed it out and replaced it with just water. It is due for a water change on Sunday anyway so I plan on letting it flush out whatever it has until then and then adding nutes again. Hopefully that curl and the rust spots will go away. Thanks 420

zhugeliang · 01-28-2006, 10:51 PM

Could it be that misting them in the mornings is what is causing them to curl up like that? I just realized that that might be the case. I have been misting them every morning after the lights shut off, so possibly it might be absorbing that water and ruining the plant and consequently causing the curl. I'll stop misting them and see what happens. I could've swore that misting them was supposed to be good for them.

00420 · 01-28-2006, 10:53 PM

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Could it be that misting them in the mornings is what is causing them to curl up like that? I just realized that that might be the case. I have been misting them every morning after the lights shut off, so possibly it might be absorbing that water and ruining the plant and consequently causing the curl. I'll stop misting them and see what happens. I could've swore that misting them was supposed to be good for them.

it could be i have not ran into that prob but when there sick anythiong is worth a try

01-29-2006, 09:42 AM

i wouldnt be misting after the lights were off. i think chances of mold would be greater by doing that.

Verite · 01-31-2006, 08:34 PM

Im with Jonny B, ph and fert issues. Whats your ph at?

Rubbery, shiney, krinkled leaves usually is a ph problem.

zhugeliang · 02-03-2006, 08:14 AM

I've been using that water ph crap, I am going to pick up a real meter this weekend. I've noticed that the water shit tells different ph's if I wait 5 seconds and try again. I got some new pictures of the entire plant now if you guys want to see. It's looking pretty bad.

02-03-2006, 08:16 AM

tried those
as well.... totally wrong reading here too! almost killed my first grow with that type of tester

looking mor and more like nute burn with that clawing... whats your ppm reading?

01-27-2006, 08:13 AM	#1
zhugeliang Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: S.C.C. Posts: 117	What in tarnation is this? Can anyone tell me what this is? The leaf has an almost rubbery feel to it but healthy feeling at the same time, if you know what that means. =/ The hole in the leaf looks as if it was popped through, like the leaf curled so much that the plant just split itself at the seams. I understand that when leaves curl like that it means that the heat is getting to be too much but the heat in my grow is max at 90 and most the time between 78 to 85 degrees. The plant is being grown in a bubbler and it is about 1 week into flower. A few of the other bigger leaves have these rusty looking spots about them too. Spread all out. I should say more like 2 leaves have that crap on them. I cut one off before but now these other 2 big ass fan leaves are getting them. I would take pictures of those too but my camera phone is wiggity weak and I have to cut the plant to get a good picture. I grew the plant from seed so insects are pretty much not in the picture although I did check thoroughly before posting. It doesn't look to be something that might kill the plant but I am just wonder just what the hell is this crap? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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01-27-2006, 12:26 PM	#3
00420 full time daddy Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,148	the rusty spots that u have sounds like a mg dif...... add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of epsomsalt... the leaf curl u have looks to be over watering..... in dwc my guess is its lack of o2 witch is from heat more then likely. water temp's not room temp more then likly u will in counter root rot if the temps keep up __________________ [00420]positive side [tokinsmokin] WOW how the hell do u know this [00420] [tokinsmokin]ur blowing my mind here dude this is some fuckin technical shit ur tellin me [00420] done?> [tokinsmokin]alright ur a genius [tokinsmokin]u kind of scare me here man, u answer pretty much every question i've had so far and not only answer it but answer it with the correct answer
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01-31-2006, 08:34 PM	#8
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Im with Jonny B, ph and fert issues. Whats your ph at? Rubbery, shiney, krinkled leaves usually is a ph problem. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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02-03-2006, 08:16 AM	#10
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	tried those as well.... totally wrong reading here too! almost killed my first grow with that type of tester looking mor and more like nute burn with that clawing... whats your ppm reading? Last edited by jonnybgood29; 02-03-2006 at 08:18 AM..
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01-27-2006, 08:26 AM	#2
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	my gues is overfert, or ph fluctuation, either way its time to pull out the meters!
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01-28-2006, 12:32 PM	#4
zhugeliang Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: S.C.C. Posts: 117	Okay, I went out and got some Epsom Salt and added 1/2 tsp a gallon and after I see a little better looking plant I will decrease it to 1/4. As far as the temps of the water I got around 70-73 degrees. The water did look waaaaaay darker then it usually does though so I flushed it out and replaced it with just water. It is due for a water change on Sunday anyway so I plan on letting it flush out whatever it has until then and then adding nutes again. Hopefully that curl and the rust spots will go away. Thanks 420
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01-28-2006, 10:51 PM	#5
zhugeliang Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: S.C.C. Posts: 117	Could it be that misting them in the mornings is what is causing them to curl up like that? I just realized that that might be the case. I have been misting them every morning after the lights shut off, so possibly it might be absorbing that water and ruining the plant and consequently causing the curl. I'll stop misting them and see what happens. I could've swore that misting them was supposed to be good for them.
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01-29-2006, 09:42 AM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	i wouldnt be misting after the lights were off. i think chances of mold would be greater by doing that.
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02-03-2006, 08:14 AM	#9
zhugeliang Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: S.C.C. Posts: 117	I've been using that water ph crap, I am going to pick up a real meter this weekend. I've noticed that the water shit tells different ph's if I wait 5 seconds and try again. I got some new pictures of the entire plant now if you guys want to see. It's looking pretty bad.
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