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Old 01-06-2011, 04:09 PM #1
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DEA in court against Michigan 1/12

Grand Rapids Michigan.

The DEA will be in court on 1/12 in the attempt to force the state of Michigan to release the records of seven registered people.

Rumor has it that the AG of Michigan has directed the Michigan Department of Community Health (MDCH) to comply with the DEA.

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...uest_to_o.html

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GRAND RAPIDS – A hearing is set next week in the federal government's request for access to certain state medical-marijuana records.

U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agents is seeking the records related to a Lansing-area investigation of seven people.

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Old 01-06-2011, 04:59 PM #2
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Is that even legal...oh wait i forgot the DEA could care less about "legal" this or that....fucking bumbaclot DEA cowboys u da bloodclaaats burn
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Grand Rapids Michigan.

The DEA will be in court on 1/12 in the attempt to force the state of Michigan to release the records of seven registered people.

Rumor has it that the AG of Michigan has directed the Michigan Department of Community Health (MDCH) to comply with the DEA.

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...uest_to_o.html
I could have sworn that medical records were sacrosanct under doctor-patient confidentiality (HIPPA), you know, more like the confidentiality of lawyer-client protections under the Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIPPA
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/usconst.asp

But the Feds often don't even bother with a search warrant issued by a judge anymore -- they sometimes don't even bother with a National Security Letter -- just the threat of a NSL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Letters
https://www.wired.com/threatlevel/200...ving_under_a_/

It would appear that the Obama regime is not just continuing that fine (snark) tradition established by the GW Bush regime of the tyrannical police state, but expanding upon it. The War on|of Terror and the War on|of Drugs have merged, and lowly MMJ patients have now popped up on the radar of the Feds as "potential terrorists".

These days, post-AG Holder memo, when the DEA conducts raids on State-legal MMJ dispensaries and collectives charges are not always pressed against the participants, but they always collect the intel bonanza of patient lists, doctors' recommendations, etcetera. It isn't difficult to logically surmise that the Feds are building up to something bad for the entire MMJ community.

Sic semper tyrannis
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terrorist medical

they wouldn't release the terrorist medical records in Gitmo, when folks were trying to see what kind of medicine they were "administering"... why?
the government said it would violate their HIPPA rights.

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I could have sworn that medical records were sacrosanct under doctor-patient confidentiality (HIPPA), you know, more like the confidentiality of lawyer-client protections under the Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIPPA
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/usconst.asp

But the Feds often don't even bother with a search warrant issued by a judge anymore -- they sometimes don't even bother with a National Security Letter -- just the threat of a NSL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Letters
https://www.wired.com/threatlevel/200...ving_under_a_/

It would appear that the Obama regime is not just continuing that fine (snark) tradition established by the GW Bush regime of the tyrannical police state, but expanding upon it. The War on|of Terror and the War on|of Drugs have merged, and lowly MMJ patients have now popped up on the radar of the Feds as "potential terrorists".

These days, post-AG Holder memo, when the DEA conducts raids on State-legal MMJ dispensaries and collectives charges are not always pressed against the participants, but they always collect the intel bonanza of patient lists, doctors' recommendations, etcetera. It isn't difficult to logically surmise that the Feds are building up to something bad for the entire MMJ community.

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^they just wanted to cover up all the experimental nazi type shit they did to them.
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that is some dam good info thanks very much guys you rock, great info and great thread, I hope the dea...well...im not gonna say what i hope cuz there prob reading this lol
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So who can be sued of this, the AG for allowing it if he does? The MDCH for giving in to the AG? It is part of the law that they will go to jail for giving out this info

Who will sue them? The 7 arrested or the 45,000 card holders because this is not what I paid for when I bought the right to my medicine, I thought I bought confidentuallity (sp?) of my medical records
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State right to self determination is becoming up front and central in Michigan.

In June of last year the DEA requested information, from the Michigan Department of Community Health (MDCH), about seven persons that had been issued medical marijuana cards.

The Michigan law establishes a privileged communication between the applicant and the state licensing agency (MDCH).

The protection is so strong that breaches of this privileged communication is a criminal offense.

Examples of privileged communication are between a husband and wife or between a client and attorney.

The new attorney general of Michigan, Bill Schuette, has submitted a response to federal court. In that answer, Schuette states a willingness to provide the information to the DEA.


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so if it was established as a crime to break the state patient confidentiality then these patients as well as any other in the system can sue the new DA...yeaaaah i hope someone does
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