[pezmasterelite]

Hello all,

This is my first grow diary, I guess in this case a breeding diary.

In the past I found a bag seed from some "Afghan" which was an excellent clone for many years. The plant has sadly gone and I and my patients are very interested in reviving this old strain we had.

The only seeds available are a cross I made with an MK-Ultra male. From other progeny tests of this male it seemed to have been from the sativa side of the MK genetics.

The plan is to drop many of these babies in search of some momma's which are very similar to what my patients and I remember as our Afghan. These will be crossed with the hardiest and strongest males.

Also I may grab some clones if anything looks interesting along the lines of an MK/Afghan mix, but the main goal is to find and isolate in a few generations the Afghan I remember.

Peace all

[pezmasterelite]

Here is some eye candy for ya.

Some of the children - day 3

[pezmasterelite]

So if your good at where's waldo then you noticed these babies, here they are again at day 14.



Not sure how long they will make it as a tricot.



The one on the left is mutated, I think I will keep it and see if it develops.

Here are some others...

[hughmorrislee]

Hope you find what you're looking for and maybe something even better mk is some fire! Good luck to you sir!

[pezmasterelite]

I was thinking today, if I plan on saving males and selecting heavily on the ladies, I should probably have things 1 seedling/cup...

So I transplanted about half the seedlings so that they are all in 16oz plastic cups. The roots seemed well, most had decent structure, and some were already swirling around the bottom of the cup. I guess it was a good time to transplant.

I didn't take any pics, things will be more interesting in 2-3 days when they are ready for another watering.

Sadly I culled some of the weaker plants as I know they will not produce the buds I am looking for. It always hurts me to kill plants, even if I know they are inferior to their siblings...

Anyways, that is the update...

Peace all.

[pezmasterelite]

Did some more work on the seedlings today. I separated and transplanted all but 12 of the cups with multiple plants per cup. I think I will leave the remaining cups alone as the roots on some of these later transplants were more involved than the earlier ones and I am a little scared breaking them apart to separate.

Even without being able to pick males from the cups with multiple plants, I still have a good number of single plant cups which should yield adequate males for selection purposes.

I also built a nice 4' x 2.5' grow table for all the cups. I just used some 1/4" plywood I had, 2"x2" pieces for the corners, and lined things in 3.5mil black plastic. My other one was a borrowed ebb/flow table only 3.5' x 1.75', I have a hydro batch that needs it in a few days... The seedlings have plenty of space now and I think this will be nice when I need to start large numbers of plants to be ensured a good selection of genetics.

An interesting note is the number of mutated plants I have in this batch. I think there are something like 5% out of the whole population.

I will post picks up later, now it is time to relax and medicate.

Peace all.

[pezmasterelite]

I guess there were 5 mutated plants, but one of them is from a different strain, so 4% mutated seedlings, that still seems high.

Here are the 4 Afghan x MK-Ultra mutants:

#1 - most mutated leaves,



#2 - Second set of true leaves are joined, one is missing a leaflet, the top is no longer there.



#3 - Born a tricot, but now it is trying to revert back, this is what always happens to them...



#4 - More sativa phenotype tricot, I have good hope for this one, I think it will remain tricot!




I am working on a smaller project at the same time as this. The other project involves some heirloom plants I received a bit back and now I only have crosses of them to grow.

Here is the other mutant, this one did not develop leaves past the first set, then out of nowhere developed the two branches above the first set of true leaves...

#5 - Ninja Turtle



I would show the other seedlings, but seedlings are seedlings. They are a first generation cross so there is much variability. Well not so much now, it looks as though the Afghan mother has spread her side of the genetics in the leaf expressions. The Sativa papa did not show up so much. There are only ~25% with normal to thin leaves, the rest are large, fat leavs which sometimes overlap due to their width.

Not much variation in the height, they all seem to be developing roughly the same speed. Some of them are developing the first set of branches faster than others I am noticing. I imagine these are going to be the more bushy plants in the end.

Probably not much for updates in the near future, just veg, veg, veg, until it is time to flower. I will try to obtain clones of each seedling before I send them to the flowering room so that I can avoid trying to revert a clone or regenerate a plant to save the genetics. I have not had luck in the past with those methods and I know the Ninja Turtle will not tolerate such things, I am not sure about the Afghan x MK-Ultra.

Anyways, back to the garden it is. Seems like with a perpetual grow there are always things to be done.

Peace.

[cave]

make some f2's of your mk/afghan cross and strat selecting the ones that most represent the lost clone or like hughmorrislee said something better

[pezmasterelite]

Hi cave, thanks for stopping by and the advice.

If you don't mind me asking how should I go about getting to f2?

Right now these are the first generation of the cross so I have a spattering of plants with some Afghan genetics and some MK-Ultra genetics.

This is the game plan:

1) I will select from these plants and I plan on making about 4-8 F1 lines with 2-3 males and 2-3 females. The females are being chosen by their similarity to the original Afghan clone I remember. The males will be isolated and flowered until mature to test flavor, taste, and growth characteristics( structure, height, flowering time, general vigor ). I will select probably two males, maybe three if I have many good choices, this is simply to ensure I have the genetics I wish in the next generation. I do not plan on doing progeny tests before making the first cross.

2) This part pretty mush is a progeny test, I will grow test runs of the F1 lines. If one is much better than the others that will be the generation I use to make the F2 seeds. If there are two which are equally good by my criterion above, I may run 2 F2 lines and try to mix them later on.

Let me know if this is a sane plan. In the past I have just kinda went with the flow and didn't do so much selecting. This is a more serious run and I would like to get as much as possible from this first generation so that the next generation has even better offspring and more similarity amongst the population.

Thanks again for the advice,

Peace.

[supermanlives]

subscribed. this shouyld be fun to watch. good luck in your quest