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11-18-2010, 05:52 PM
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the bio-droid training facility... green dragon experiments.
....welcome to the bio-droid training facility and my green dragon experiments... i will be documenting my cannabis tincture learning process here... and hope for participation from other board members... after discovering master wu's recipe and becoming quite intrigued, i've spent the last several months buried in green dragon research and development. first off... absolute respect and honor go to master wu for showing me the way... unfortunately he abandoned his thread long before i discovered it and i never got to speak with him, hopefully he moved on to bigger and better things.... i could only imagine how many learned from his thread, and i can only hope to spread his knowledge and my trial and error to many more. i started this journey because i have a close friend who recently received her card... she doesn't smoke and the providers here in NM do not offer edibles, extraction, or tinctures... this is where i come in. for anonymity sake i'll call her viktoria... her condition closely resembles fibromyalgia, i know not what that is, what i do know is this girl consumes a stupid amount of pain meds through out the day. percs, 30 and 15 mg morphine's, muscle relaxers, and all sorts of other stuff... she talks of horrible side effects that make me cringe. i'm proud to say that with the first batch of dragon i gave her... she did not take her evening meds for 2 weeks straight...  and left behind some nausea. she did have some interesting side effects from the dragon, like a slight buzz in the morning. nothing compared to the pharms...i'll not go any further in the hopes that viktoria her self will chime in on the topic...i made about 15 batches in the old house with bad electric oven... it fluctuated about 75 degrees  during my 5 min. decarb which required me to use some tricky timing... happy to say that's all behind me, in the new facility a have the perfect gas oven that hold 325f exactly... no fluctuation. i've since made my best 3 dragons, 3 different combinations... with 3 end products. my next 3 post will be method, documentation and pics of these 3 dragons... if you have any interest in cannabis tinctures, green dragon is the way... please feel free to join in, comment or critique in any way...
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11-18-2010, 07:45 PM
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green dragon... one.
this was my strongest dragon so far... overwhelming at a 1/2 tsp.
ingredients... 4 g. A grade bud chemD x spacedawg, the 'blue' pheno 4 g. shake from A grade bud. 4 oz. everclear 95% grain alcohol foil quick read digital thermometer oven thermometer sauce pot and steamer basket or any water bath you can put together... coffee filter to strain dragon from cannabis... i use a potato ricer to squeeze the last bit... method... decarb in oven for 5min at 325f. extract for 20 min. in boiling alcohol. process... 4 g. bud... 4 g. shake... i grind my bud in a coffee grinder, the shake stays as is... bud and shake gets mixed and must be dry for a proper decarb... preheat your oven to 325f... use a thermometer in the oven and forget the dial... than a preheat a bit longer... this gives a more consistent oven temp spread flat on foil and into the oven for 5 min at 325f... it will smell strongly and give you a slight puff of vapor upon opening the oven... this is the look of properly decarbed cannabis... cannabis goes into a pint mason jar with 4 oz. everclear... this will go into the water bath, everything at room temp... if you put the jar in boiling water it will break... at see level water boils at 212f, and alcohol at 172f... i'm in the high desert and water boils around 200f, alcohol around 163f... the alcohol, water, cannabis blend has a combined boiling point... a water bath around 185 keeps the alcohol at a consistent rolling boil... i time 20 min. from the moment the alcohol starts to boil, and keep the water bath at a very light boil/simmer this reduced to 2 oz. of dragon... it's what i was after but it was too strong... especially for viktoria... i drizzle through a coffee filter, than squeeze the filter and cannabis in my potato ricer... this can yield a bit more dragon this dragon was overwhelming strong at 1/4 to 1/2 tsp, my prefered dosage... gonna shoot for 4 oz. reduced dragon on my next personal batch... the next is light strength for viktoria... my pics of the process were not the best and lacking for this round... they are much better over the next 2 batches... if anything i've said is confusing please let me know...
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11-18-2010, 07:49 PM
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nice post! but your pics arent working!!!!
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11-18-2010, 08:47 PM
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I've found a way to make tincture that doesn't involve soaking bud in everclear, I think the purity of anything soaked like this is questionable. I've tasted a number of tinctures over the years and most of them taste like shit (like lawn clippings soaked in everclear, barf!)
Basically I start with clean and filtered honey QWISO (I use ISO, denatured, or acetone, whichever I can get 4-8 gallons of when I need it) and purge it well. It needs to be dry and decarboxylized before use. Then simply take about 2 grams of honey oil, mix it with a 1/2 oz of everclear and dissolve it at room temps. This takes a while to dissolve but well worth it. When there are no chunks remaining I put in a splash of 100 proof peppermint schnapps, for a little sweet and flavor. I use little squeeze bottles with a dropper tip. 4 drops and you're STONED. It actually tastes good, is small and concealable, and should last forever. Start with a purified extract and then dilute it with alcohol. Otherwise you end up with a lot more cholorophyll and other crap that just doesn't get you high and generally tastes bad.
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11-18-2010, 11:10 PM
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green dragon... two.
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for the record my dragon tastes nothing like lawn clippings or shit... i drink it in water or beer... adds a slight green flavor like anything cooked with canna butter... it's very good, especially in the beer... what's your decarb process for honey oil... ? ok back to the matter at hand... ingredients... 4 g. shake from A grade bud. 5 oz. everclear 95% grain alcohol foil quick read digital thermometer oven thermometer sauce pot and steamer basket or any water bath you can put together... coffee filter to strain dragon from cannabis... i use a potato ricer to squeeze the last bit... method... same 325f. decarb for 5 min. 20 min. alcohol extraction in water bath. process... before going into the preheated 325f. oven ... right at 5 minutes as the oven door opens... properly decarbed cannabis, and my patient little kitchen helper... there's a very distinct smell here... i've gone too far and the smell is not the same... more toasted... after the bong whack test i can say there's some kick ass THC in here... left this one soaking in the everclear for 12 hours or so... gotta work sometimes... this was the first time i extracted with a cover... did absolutely nothing... 2 oz. finished product... still on the strong side for my friend viktoria... but keeping her off the evening morphine and percocet... she takes a single dropper full, i measured it at an 1/8 tsp... tried to get a pic of the emerald green color here...got some killer color pics in the round 3... thought this would be a light batch but this was my most perfect to date... drank some in my water bottle at work... 1/4 tsp at a time... perfect body high, leveled off every edge and pain... perfect head high... not overwhelming or scattering... just cruising through an evening at work on clouds... happy... no stress.
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11-20-2010, 01:28 AM
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your pics just werent showing up on my screen working now! i diggggg
might give this a try here soon thanks
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11-20-2010, 07:34 PM
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amazing. Ive never done anything like this, but i applaud your honest attempts to help a friend in pain.
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11-22-2010, 03:15 AM
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green dragon... three.
13 ans 27... thnx for stopping by the thread...
i'm very happy to try and help my friend... we've known each other for 15 years... keep in mind i'm a heavy consumer of dragon myself it would seem... and i'm never gonna stop. i'm looking into high cbd strains for this project... what i can find available on the seed market is cannatonic from resin seeds... possibly has a 1:1 cb to thc ratio, right around 6% each... i'm considering purchasing... ok... once again... ingredients... 4 g. bud chemD x spacedawg, the 'blue' pheno 4 g. shake from A grade bud. mixed strains from myself and my med provider. 8 oz. everclear 95% grain alcohol foil quick read digital thermometer oven thermometer sauce pot and steamer basket or any water bath you can put together... coffee filter to strain dragon from cannabis... i use a potato ricer to squeeze the last bit... method... same time and temps... decarb in oven for 5min at 325f. extract for 20 min. in boiling alcohol. process... 4 g. bud... 4 g. shake... before 5 min. in the very preheated 325f. oven... after the decarb process... passed the bong whack test with flying colors and a massive head rush... in 8 oz. 95% everclear... right as it starts to boil... can't seem to catch a boil in a pic... looks like a wave... this is the alcohol boiling down... pulled it out to try and catch a pic of the boil again... after the 20 min. water bath extraction... 5 oz. after filtering... i wanted to reduce this down further, next time a longer extraction time... it has a very emerald green look... like kryptonite... i like dragon beers... it makes a green cloud in the beer... i believe absinthe drinkers call this the green fairy... this batch is mellow... i like a full tsp. in my beer or water bottle... i did overwhelm myself with this one last night but i had several servings... self titration is key when consuming... if anyone has any info on other cbd rich strains... available or otherwise... please please chime in... 
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11-22-2010, 07:26 PM
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This is very interesting. Thank you General for posting, taking the time to make this proper green dragon tek. Should be trying this soon.
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11-30-2010, 10:00 PM
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My one attempt at Green Dragon came out VERY green and tasted like a sip of some DANK (and everclear.)
Something I've been giving a lot of thought to lately is the idea of water-curing the buds before they go into the tincture. If you water cure for a few days to a week (explained in more detail below) you can remove most of the coloration, chlorophyl and terpines (odor). So... if you water cure, then let it dry for a day or two... then carboxylate, then boil in everclear, you should end up with the same potency, but much less fragrence or taste. When making cannabutter, this can also be done. One canna-chef said he makes a batch of canna-butter, lets it solidify, dumps out the water, adds fresh, lets it all melt together again, lets it solidify, dumps out the water, and repeats the whole process 3-4 times. By the 4th trip (according to him) you end up with butter that looks basically like butter. (Yellow, not green) and smells... like butter. Then anything you make will taste like food, but get you high. Water curing made simple: Take some bud. Put it in a container and submerge it in water. Every 6-12 hours, slowly pour out the water and then add fresh water. When the water stops turning green, remove the bud from the water and hang to dry. It will dry very quickly (a day or two). It will now be "stealth" weed that smokes very very smooth, with very little fragrence or flavor. Most of us would not prefer this when we're smoking (unless we're going to a concert, for instance) but it seems like a big "win" for cooking or tincturing.
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