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"IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude
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BC's Purple Kush, plus OH x SK1 Grow Diary
OK I have been challenged by a young buck to get 2p's per light.
To be clear the HPS bulb has an output of 55,000 Lumens, while the MH bulb has an output of 29,000 Lumens, Therefore the MH bulb has an output of 53% of the HPS bulb. So the p's I am looking for at 1 watt per Gram would be 800g's, Since I am running 75% of this I am reaching for 600grams. I am gonna try with some of the weakest producing strains: Original Haze x Skunk1 by Sam the Skunkman and Purple Kush, not sure who from it's a BC cut for a decade now. And it has a shitty rep for being low producing. In my defense I have not been using co2 yet but will in flower, just noticing growth at 1inch a day currently and feel they would stretch if co2 was on?????? Secondly this is a brand new room and that is usually a 1 round to get used to you but not this time. I am in second week of flower and due to space I am gonna flip soon. This will be a huge challenge since my soil is organic and don't think I'll be using much if any nuts, but I'll let yea know. the grow cab is a 4' x 8' x 7'High. Plants are all pot to pot, have 42 Plants in 2 gallon pots, will run closer to 50 next time Follow up with some pics shortly
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11-08-2010, 01:10 AM
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"IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude
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MY MIX: Amounts for 50 – 2gallon pots
3 parts peat 2.2cu.ft 3 parts perlite 50 Litre 2 parts coco 1 Brick 1 parts topsoil 1 part wormcasts, from Gaia 30Litre Bag 1 part Gaia FERTILIZING SOIL CONDITIONER 4-4-2 30Litre Bag 2 part potting soil 25Litre Bag 1 part vermiculite 1 part mushroom compost 20Litre Bag 15 Parts x 4L(ice cream bucket to ration parts)= 60Litres x 5 to fill 50 2 gallon pots To each 60 Litres I add: 280g Gaia 4-4-4 All Purpose 5g/litre = 280g’s @ 5 mixes = 1400g’s 225g Kelp meal 4g/L = 225g’s @ 5 mixes = 1125g’s 56g GROW,Gaia Seabird guano 1g/litre= 56g’s @ 5 mixes = 280g’s 225g FLOWER, Gaia High P guano 4g/L = 225g’s @ 5 mixes = 1125g’s 225g dolomite lime 4g/litre = 225g’s @ 5 mixes = 1125g’s 56g ?rock potash 1g/L (included in Gaia All Purpose) 280g’s 56g ?rock phosphate 1g/L (included in Gaia All Purpose) 280g’s molasses at 1 teaspoon/gallon WEEKLY with water feeding. and some water crystals (As needed, mainly for outdoor grows) *Note: Do not over water! Do not let your soil completely dry out! Maintain moist but not soggy soil for happy healthy plants. the bat guano amounts change a little with strain. for instance the Blueberry has less N guano in the mix - but that standard mix has worked for pretty much everything i have grown and i just refine it a little as i get strains dialled in. feeding is often not necessary but i use Dynagro and some other nut’s every 10-14days’ish sometimes if i think they need it and molasses at 1 teaspoon/gallon weekly, (from B.Friendly, best, cheapest mix I have ever seen!!) See his results for yourself!! Important: Mix it really well, When you think it’s good, mix it some more!
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Puff and "B.Friendly" "It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under" When mankind first saw the necessity of government, it is probable that many had conceived the desire of ruling. Thomas Clarkson "The world runs on the initiative of about 5% of the people; the rest need orders. The consensus of the other 95% on the subject of one's relatonship with: government-banks-tax agencies-courts and corporations (all separate realms) is defective in that such inert abstractions have been accorded superiority over living beings. Governments are transitory mental contrivances set up by the clever few for the purpose of living off the efforts of the trusting many - a generalization, yes, but also the TRUTH." Cracking the Code, 3rd edition Last edited by B. Friendly; 11-14-2010 at 06:53 AM.. |
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11-08-2010, 01:28 AM
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"IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude
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co2 burner, fan, dehumidifier
2 400w bulbs, one HPS other MH my fav MH https://www.eyehortilux.com/blue.html Digital Ballasts A Swamp fan but not installed or used yet Girls are on stadiums, 10, 18, 28 inches off ground.
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Puff and "B.Friendly" "It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under" When mankind first saw the necessity of government, it is probable that many had conceived the desire of ruling. Thomas Clarkson "The world runs on the initiative of about 5% of the people; the rest need orders. The consensus of the other 95% on the subject of one's relatonship with: government-banks-tax agencies-courts and corporations (all separate realms) is defective in that such inert abstractions have been accorded superiority over living beings. Governments are transitory mental contrivances set up by the clever few for the purpose of living off the efforts of the trusting many - a generalization, yes, but also the TRUTH." Cracking the Code, 3rd edition |
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11-08-2010, 01:34 AM
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"IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude
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Girls currently between 8 - 10 inches planted 26th October = 13 days
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11-08-2010, 04:25 AM
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This should be interesting...
I think with stadium grows, higher yield is easier to achieve. Just surprised with all the extra equipment, you're only running 2 400's |
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11-08-2010, 11:26 PM
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tellin everybody Get co2 = 30% plus yeild And stadiums for sure: had a room with 110 2-gallon pots on the floor, went to stadiums and used 3-gallon pots with only 75'ish pots and my yeilds increased, go figure. Just the way light can penetrate in stadiums makes all the dif, realizing now that if I had used 2-gallons in stadiums it would have been larger yeilds. Probally gonna turn on co2 today or tomorrow, so they are exploding into flower Yesterday made a tea over night and fed em this morning.
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Puff and "B.Friendly" "It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under" When mankind first saw the necessity of government, it is probable that many had conceived the desire of ruling. Thomas Clarkson "The world runs on the initiative of about 5% of the people; the rest need orders. The consensus of the other 95% on the subject of one's relatonship with: government-banks-tax agencies-courts and corporations (all separate realms) is defective in that such inert abstractions have been accorded superiority over living beings. Governments are transitory mental contrivances set up by the clever few for the purpose of living off the efforts of the trusting many - a generalization, yes, but also the TRUTH." Cracking the Code, 3rd edition |
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11-09-2010, 01:27 AM
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"IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude
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For everybody that thinks MH is better for vegging, this is true but the only problem is MH of equal wattage to HPS put out half as much LUMENS. Therefore if MH could put out the same Lumens as HPS then for the spectrum I would prefer MH but since they put out 53% give or take 5% I would choose HPS if I could only choose one bulb my girls under the MH are noticely stretchier than the girls under the HPS I will say that I have tasted mj finished under a MH and due to the UV spectrum I really noticed extra frost compared to the girls finished under a HPS. Strain plays a major role here: I find Hazes and the like finish with better quality under a MH, since the genetic make up entails counties of origin close to the Equator which gets more UV LIGHT Naturally
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Puff and "B.Friendly" "It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under" When mankind first saw the necessity of government, it is probable that many had conceived the desire of ruling. Thomas Clarkson "The world runs on the initiative of about 5% of the people; the rest need orders. The consensus of the other 95% on the subject of one's relatonship with: government-banks-tax agencies-courts and corporations (all separate realms) is defective in that such inert abstractions have been accorded superiority over living beings. Governments are transitory mental contrivances set up by the clever few for the purpose of living off the efforts of the trusting many - a generalization, yes, but also the TRUTH." Cracking the Code, 3rd edition |
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11-09-2010, 01:40 AM
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Hey what's up BFriendly? Looking good man. Figure I'll be along for the ride and see what you come up with.
Do I read you right when you say the plants under the MH are stretchier or the HPS? I thought they stretch more under HPS? What kind of yield are you expecting from each pot? Smiley |
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11-09-2010, 02:24 AM
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the math I did above based on Lumen output placed the MH at 53% of the HPS Lumen output This I think is responsible for the stretchyness I have never had a side by side to judge with always had way more bulbs and my ratios were out of wack to know. As for Yeild, 600grams is ideal that would be 1gram per watt with the lumen conversion I did a couple post above. I need to keep the MH bulb for flower or at least the first few weeks to make sure my seeds stay female. Have 4 seeds of OH x Sk1. so I am gonna keep the MH all the way through flower.
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Puff and "B.Friendly" "It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under" When mankind first saw the necessity of government, it is probable that many had conceived the desire of ruling. Thomas Clarkson "The world runs on the initiative of about 5% of the people; the rest need orders. The consensus of the other 95% on the subject of one's relatonship with: government-banks-tax agencies-courts and corporations (all separate realms) is defective in that such inert abstractions have been accorded superiority over living beings. Governments are transitory mental contrivances set up by the clever few for the purpose of living off the efforts of the trusting many - a generalization, yes, but also the TRUTH." Cracking the Code, 3rd edition |
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11-09-2010, 08:57 AM
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Hmmmmmmm
People have fought for years over which build was better to do a full cycle with, some say MH, some say HPS. My personal preference is HPS..
Just curious....who told you MH has half lumen outputs as HPS?? I think you need to do your research before making completely false statements like that. And that's not being an asshole, just the truth.... Wait, and considering what kind of a person I've found you out to be in the last 2 days... here's some proof in Black and White https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/1826/MHS-10750E.html https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/1795/LU1000-59718.html HPS has higher Orange/Red concentrations than MH so will lead to more stretching and higher yields, whereas the MH will lead to more compact nodal spacing, and some argue more resin production since some MH bulbs put out more UV than it's HPS counterparts. P.S. Stretching can come from more than just the light you have... many factors can inhibit/encourage stretching, such as: Spectrum of light (HPS/MH) Age of bulb, older bulbs=less lumens Distant of light from plants (even a MH from far away will cause stretching) Wrong nutes (too much of the wrong nutes will also effect vertical growth in plants) Someone with a Horti diploma should know this   |
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