[vicious bee]

This is a Ducksfoot x Short Term Amnesia I got going. They're not too healthy. I started them under some small fluorescents due to lack of room. Now they're under a 400W CMH. Probably change to a HPS which seems to do better for me. Probably pollinate tomorrow. Here's a few of them. The ones in the back are Duck x STA. There are a few Duck x Blue Streak which are too small.



Little closer

Look how they are sparse but have long pistils. I'm not sure if that's the way they are or it's lack of light. I'm sure they could go longer before pollination but I'm only interested in seeds.

I have a some more following these. Here's what I think the outcome of this cross will be. I found a web sight that does Punnett Squares. I plugged in for two Recessives. Results below.DdAa x DdAa.
D=Duck dominate
d=Duck recessive
A=Auto dominate
a=auto recessive
Does this look right. I read on a reptile breeding page for two recessives and it seemed to be the same as I have plugged in here. Of course garbage in, garbage out if I plugged in the wrong data in the program.

What I'm looking for is DDAA at 6.25%. I believe. Also the DdAA and ddAA might be interesting. Maybe add some veg time to the STA auto. Actually the DDAa and DDaa could be of some use. Could be that some would be semi-auto or at least earlier. Short Term Amnesia is good weed and we all know about the Duck. A world of goodness.

[Donald Mallard]

hey mr bee , good to see you keeping busy , busybee , hehe ..

Gee sounds like you may have to grow a few plants out to isolate those both recessive traits , i applaude your keen ness .. please do keep us uptodate on your project ..

have you tried metal halides on your more sativa types ?? It always seemed to work better for me .. half the battle growing sativas indoors is the right light , i guess the other challange is patience .. lol ..

[vicious bee]

The lights in the room are Ceramic Metal Halide which has a very good spectrum. The pictures taken above are under the CMH. I love the spectrum. The light from a CMH is fantastic in tone. Supposedly better than MH. I'm not seeing it in terms of yield. It does seem to be better at putting on resin. Not a fact just a notion I have from watching. I just changed it to HPS today. Going to see the difference. The HPS seems to do much better with my other plants. All autos. Have to see in this case. Will let you know. I hope if I get enough seeds I can run several thousand and prune all not Duck. Then if lucky some will be auto. If not lucky there should be some in the F3 that are both. The pics weren't very good, They're starting to resin up on the leaves. Which is good for them not being near finish.

[moonunit]

Looking great bee, got my eye on this one as im learning as much as i can on wd's lovely duck line. lovely work m8, looks like a great outcross
much respect
moonunit

[MacHush]

Very nice VB always glad to see progress!!

[Otto Flour]

subscribed! lookin good, bee. planning a duck cross of my own.

[vicious bee]

Whee more pics. They do have some problems due to my sometimes reckless behavior. I was making some fems and got STS spray, very little, on some of them. So they hermed. Most didn't. After that I was using a heater to warm things up a little and add some CO2. Left the door open with a light blasting on them all night. Arrrgh! More herms. Oh well. I pulled off most and it's not a big deal. A few of the seeds will be selfed. The next generation shouldn't herm if it does then I'll know I have a problem. You have no idea how screwed up where I grow is. It's getting better and I'm always spiffing it up a little but there's never enough time. Such is life. What's that song, "I may be a chunk of coal but I'm going to be a Diamond some Day". My grow may ghetto but the genetics are golden.
I'll quit babbling.
First a male group shot with the latest accessory. Pollen catchers. The leaves on the males have been stripped. There were just too many and I've been reading up on stripping for increased yield. Doesn't seem to hurt pollen production. The different sizes mean nothing. Some were revegged under a HPS some have just been under fluoresents the whole time. I threw out any that didn't look good.

Here's a group female shot. Once again some lead a life of very little light so size is not important. Most selection will come in the F3.

I thought I'd show you this male. It's interesting. It's a F1 Ducksfoot x Blue Streak auto. Looks duckish doesn't it? I kept it's pollen separate and hit most of the females with it. I'm hoping it has a more dominate Duck gene. Whatever that means. I do know that breed what you like works and I like it.

It didn't come out but this plant is purple. It's a DK x Blue Streak. From now on I'll show the whole plant then close up or close ups.

close up

This is a Guerilla Gold x Ducksfoot



Now back to Ducksfoot x Short Term Amnesia









This one got sprayed with STS oops hermi


These last two I'm going to really keep an eye on. They've already been pollinated and the picture doesn't do them justice. I tried several times to get a picture that would show them better but failed. They are sooooo heavy. The thing that comes to mind is that if you wrung them out like a dish towel resin would pour out of them. They have that Short Term Amnesia structure. Like a loli pop.







I pollinated most after taking these pics. Some have already been pollinated several weeks ago. I have a few left that I want to put on a little more weight first. Then I'll pollinate them. I going to try and run some of the seeds that are already done. It's difficult because most of the time seeds don't want to sprout if they are new. This seems to be strongly strain selected. Some seeds can fall out of the bud and germ immediately. Most seem to take 3 months or so and only get really good at germing after 6 months or so. It took me a loooonnnggg time to come to this conclusion. I thought it was something I was doing wrong but after reading tons of seed germ info I've come to the conclusion that like I stated some seeds just need time. If I have problems I'm going to try freezing, scarifying, and using ethephon. You've heard of using GA3 to promote germing. Well my latest understanding is that the GA3 causes the release of ethylene which starts the seed germing. Ethephon is a chemical that turns into ethylene inside the plant. May be better than GA3. Not sure yet.

i can see they have 3 finger leaf trait but the original ducksfoot had distinctly webbed fingers on leaves. this is probably a hard trait to capture but if you do let me know. il be following this thread to see how you go. best of luck

[Otto Flour]

Originally Posted by auto guerilla

i can see they have 3 finger leaf trait but the original ducksfoot had distinctly webbed fingers on leaves. this is probably a hard trait to capture but if you do let me know. il be following this thread to see how you go. best of luck

this is just the f1 generation when he grows out the seeds that he's making now 25% of the plants should be webbed.

[vicious bee]

May take more to get auto and webbed both. It would be nice to get a early light sensitive strain in the F3. Similar to Guerilla Gold or the Danish strains. I'll put some seeds back to test for that later. My pics are not very good but oh well. I wish I could get a picture that shows how good some look. I haven't been able to really bring out how they look. Two I particularly like. The structure is. as you see, a huge Popsicle bud on a stick. The STA that these came from were strong weed and very Sativa in their effects. Should go well with the Duck. I'm thinking of working two lines. One with a quick finish 60-70 days and one with a finish of 80-90 or so. I believe the fast line will be easier to find. STA's usually go 70 days or so. Might take longer for the longer line.