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Old 11-04-2010, 09:56 AM #1
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Jamaican Landraces

Hello all, some thoughts came to my mind.
Are the jamaican landraces really jamaican?

I dont know when the brittish brought the african slaves to jamaica, but they ended the slavery 1845. And then came the indian immigrants to work on the sugarfields.
The word ganja came into the jamaican vocabulary from the first hindu contractworkers.
And the brittish landowners grew cannabis for the workers, beliving it would make them work harder, and ofcourse the hemp was good for ropemaking and such.

Maybe jamaica had landraces before but isnt it possible that either the african slaves or the indian immigrants brought seeds from their homeland?

And if my theory is correct, then the landraces aint landraces arent they?
But what do i know

Just being a bit curious.


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Well since all African herb originates in Asia, there wouldn't be any African landraces if your logic was right.

Indian 'hemp' was grown on the island and Indian workers also brought other strains with them.
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+1 Thule hello Keat

...after, plants adapt to the environment they encounter and that is where the magic takes place or not I think, and we determined it as "land race". Cannabis can be compared with the vine, once humans are well looked after.
For Jamaica, I know two "vintages" varieties, Jamaican Blue Mountain and Jamaican Lambsbread, others perhaps?
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They have a lot of local strains, but all the genetics comes from foreign countries since Columbus.

I've tried a strain called "High mountain" which was the (one of the ) oldest sativa grown in westmoreland, near Accompong (historical maroon village).
Buds were quite airy and 12 inch long! Far from the compact buds from Orange hill grown in 8 weeks, "High mountain" require 4 months to mature but can resist to most everything!
.More than a Hardy plant, the "High moutain" delivers a High wich is very long lasting and much cerebral/spiritual than the commercial"high grade" sold everywhere.
In fact some rastas don't want to cross these original strains with "Chronic" or dutch strains for many reasons : It's was the first place where I've heard about genetic preservation ...and Landrace!(2004)
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lambsbread is not a jamaican landrace, it was brought there by the dutch in the late 70's and 80's, from what i understand its a skunk #1 cross....i was just talking bout that the other day with someone, i was actually talking with him about DNA sharks breath which is GWS x lambsbread

he is a respected breeder from the early 80's and this is what he said:
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Ok, I'm confused now. WTF is up with these damn seed companies. Ok, from what I understand about GWS is that it is Brazilian sativa/South Indian X Skunk #1. Being as Skunk #1 is a 75/25 Sat/Indi hybrid(the true Skunk #1 is anyway), and Lambs Breath; AKA: Lambs Bread(after the Marley song), is also a Jamaican hybrid containing Skunk #1 and a Jamaican Sativa, making it Sativa dominant. If these are the true strains in this DNA strain, there is no way it is 80% Indica. Maybe 80% Sativa, but not Indica.

Some have the misconception that Jamaican Lambs Breath/Bread is a Jamaican land race. This is not so. Skunk 1 varieties were introduced to Jamaican growers in the 80's. Many land race Jamaican strains possess Skunk 1 in their lineages since the mid 80's.
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Ganja was first taken to Jamaica by the Spanish.

Lambsbread is a generic term for ganja used in sacrament.

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its funny, my friend is jamaican and goes there 3-4 times a year for the past 15-20 years, and he has never heard of blue mountain or lambsbread.....he said one of the most famous strains down there is kiki, and another i cant remember the name of the other ....just goes to show ya....diff strains in diff goegraphical regions of the country, or just different names on same strains.....
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+1 Docleaf

The term Lambsbread was used in my books from at least 1978 (Sylford walker-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OwB9...eature=related)

Skunk#1 is a sativa cross with a little indica sold in the begining of 80's..(also relative to columbian/jamaican).
Hard to believe that in those times, jamaicans farmers needed genetics from U.S or Dutchland to make a very potent herb? ( everything good is not always from Sam, Neville or Shantibaba!).


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Some have the misconception that Jamaican Lambs Breath/Bread is a Jamaican land race. This is not so. Skunk 1 varieties were introduced to Jamaican growers in the 80's. Many land race Jamaican strains possess Skunk 1 in their lineages since the mid 80's.
That is maybe true today , but once they are crossed with Skunk#1, you can't call them landrace anymore.
DNA are just selling the name...just another exotic marketing.
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Maybe despite the wave "skunk", good guys have also preserved their possible value. But like everywhere is increasingly rare. I know that the "lambs" wich i speak has become a strong tendency to hermi and infinite flowering, like the most wild ones...

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Old 11-08-2010, 10:05 AM #10
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Great guys, some valueble information!
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