jfoo i'm certain you meant to post that to the passive plant killer thread

[jjfoo]

I was replying to something from yosemite sam,but forgot to quote it... so it was out of context.

it was in response to this:

Originally Posted by YosemiteSam

What i think, and others will no doubt disagree, is that burnt tips can be an overfert situation but probably not at 1.5. What is more likely is that your environmental conditions are, or are sometimes, such that the stomata on your plants do not stay open all of the time...which means that Ca has a hard time translocating in your plants causing the "burnt" tips.

I think this formula is good enough that you can run it anywhere from 1.2 to 1.8 with no bad effect. If there are issues with the plants I would start looking at improving the environment.

As to whether you can push the plants or not that is a tough one. I think you can definitely get more mass on the plants by pushing it a little. But I think (without definitive proof) that doing so could hurt your trichome production...so you might gain one way and lose a little another.

In your situation I would keep it between 1.5 and 1.8.

Hope that made some sense.

[overmyhead]

update on the straight osmocote plus and pro mix, looks like a Ca Deficiency. I will definitely hit with the tomato spray for wst couple weeks of flower or add Ca in water - I wonder if the Ca in the pro mix takes some time to really become available and there just isn't enough from the OC+ for those first crucial weeks.

On the peters, with no flush my buds tast amazingly smooth and ash is white but it seems to gunk up in the distribution drippers on my blumats : ( So, I'm trying lucas formula for now. but I really want to get to where it's straight water only so I might switch my beds to pro mix, OC+, epsom salt, maybe gypsum. Then just foliar any extra Ca.

[woolybear]

Hi OP, thanks for this thread. Trying out the Jack's + Calcinit; 1st feeding was yesterday, looking good so far!

I went with a lb of each, which totals around $18 with shipping. The shit is strong - 1 tablespoon of jacks/calcium nitrate in a 5-gal bucket gave be 2.0 ec, with ph buffered at 6.3ish.

Much prefer using dry nutes as opposed to wet! No more drawing nutes with syringes.

[jjfoo]

no more shipping costs for water, too

[HighDesertJoe]

Real nice tread Thank You..Back in the late 70's I used Osmacote and Peter's on my outdoor crops with AMAZING results. Getting back to growing (going to do a small Micro Grow for my brother who's in need of Meds) all these years later I'm glad to see I can still stay with the time tested basic's.

[overmyhead]

Originally Posted by Carl Carlson

just be careful in combining a water soluble fertilizer with the OC+. Start with a low EC and work your way up if need be. It's easy to go overboard and burn when combining the two.

Well, they definitely had a little too much N but have worked it out quite nicely, I have two extra so I'm going to throw them into flower next week or two. My OC+ and pro mix only test crew have been in about 65 days now and except for some ca def are doing pretty well. Only thing I've added is some molasses and liquid karma. I have finally broken my ca def streak by hitting some clones with the greenlight blossom end rot spray (calcium chloride and sulfer) a couple times at the beginning of flower (they are 5 weeks in now and no brown spots) so I bet if I did that with the OC+ I'd have much better success next time. I promise I'll get a pic or two up here soon.

[overmyhead]

oops

[woolybear]

Hi All, I'm running the Jacks' Pro Hydro during veg, working great. I've read a TON (the AN nutrients is great thread in particular) and I'm still wondering what I need to add/change for bloom when using Jack's Pro + Calcium Nitrate.

Jack's Bloom Booster 1-3-2? Bloom stimulant recommendation? Big Bud (AN) alternative? Floralicious plus? Koolbloom? Shit!

Or be like mod Guest in the KISS thread and use the same shit from veg to bloom? I like that answer, but don't mind splurging for a bloom enhancer.

edit: Use any bloom booster with an NPK of approx 0-50-30. monster bloom, AN bloom booster pro, Nutrilife's Nitro, Beastie blooms. Gonna get kool bloom.

woolybear...you do not need to add anything to the hydro special/CaNO3. It is complete as is. Check the pics I posted in this thread...no bloom boosters.

To be honest I like to foliar feed with brix mix and calcium 25 in veg. But those are the only additives I use and I use them because both produce noticable increases in brix (% sucrose) levels as measured by a refractometer. But it certainly isn't needed to produce most excellent weed.