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Old 10-29-2010, 05:00 AM
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I'm glad you're enjoying success and that's a good link, thanks.

It reminds me to post this one -

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I was on Super=grow forum last nite and the news is he's shutting down the website as soon as inventory is gone, but is looking for a way to sell products ebay. Hope it works out; his prices/goods are great.
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:40 PM
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Jack's Pro Hydro w/ calcinit is great stuff. I switched to it from GH 3 part and I get better results with less work and money.

I use potassium silicate as well. I found a store on ebay that sells fulvic acid, amino acids and MKP by the pound in powdered form.

This is a great place with lots of fair priced products to choose from.
https://stores.ebay.com/The-Organic-Store

I just received my package from them and everything looks high quality. The fulvic and amino acids are going in after my next rez change.
If you use potassium silicate (great stuff for mold prevention BTY) always add it first and you will find that much less ph down is required to achieve the correct ph. As a rule of thumb always add high ph ingredients first and you will find that you will use much less ph down.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:15 PM
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Here we are at 6 weeks...things seem to be staying very healthy.

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so do all of these peters and jacks products contain all 16 micros? what do you use for bennies?

and to get this straight, basically you are using the same NPK formula from veg-bloom? what does the final NPK come out to?

what do you think about the dyna-gro products?

sorry for the loaded questions, but very interested. after months of researching i have settled on dyna-gro, but wondering if this would be a better option.
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:41 PM
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Check out the Peters' label posted above - 12 macros and micros. Silicon is 13th via the Potassium Silicate.

I have never mixed 'bennies' with the Peters. If you've used them along with other conventional fertilizers in the past, I don't see why it wouldn't work with one of these.

On the NPK ratios, I have thought recently about changing them up based on the "Phosphorous myth" report from AN.

I think most of the users on icmag are going with the same ratio throughout and it's what is given in the mixing instructions. This is what the Peters + Calcinit mixes up to at 2.1 EC: 150N - 48P - 216K - 116Ca - 31Mg - 125S.

My most recent reservoir uses slightly different mixing ratios. Following the instructions posted in #1, use 3/4 the suggested amount of Peters and 1x the Calcinit. Now I cut this down to an EC of 1.0, but at "full strength", the ratios are: 138N - 36P - 162K - 116Ca - 23Mg - 94S. I'll report back if this changes anything over the course of a grow...

I think Dyna-Gro is very good and complete, but take note of a couple of things. It is will be more expensive than any of these options and it uses about 20% ammoniacal nitrogen. Depending on your water source, this form of N is likely to drop the pH in your medium over the course of a grow.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:43 PM
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Check out the Peters' label posted above - 12 macros and micros. Silicon is 13th via the Potassium Silicate.

I have never mixed 'bennies' with the Peters. If you've used them along with other conventional fertilizers in the past, I don't see why it wouldn't work with one of these.

On the NPK ratios, I have thought recently about changing them up based on the "Phosphorous myth" report from AN.

I think most of the users on icmag are going with the same ratio throughout and it's what is given in the mixing instructions. This is what the Peters + Calcinit mixes up to at 2.1 EC: 150N - 48P - 216K - 116Ca - 31Mg - 125S.

My most recent reservoir uses slightly different mixing ratios. Following the instructions posted in #1, use 3/4 the suggested amount of Peters and 1x the Calcinit. Now I cut this down to an EC of 1.0, but at "full strength", the ratios are: 138N - 36P - 162K - 116Ca - 23Mg - 94S. I'll report back if this changes anything over the course of a grow...

I think Dyna-Gro is very good and complete, but take note of a couple of things. It is will be more expensive than any of these options and it uses about 20% ammoniacal nitrogen. Depending on your water source, this form of N is likely to drop the pH in your medium over the course of a grow.
Carl...I like the change you made but do you think that is going to be enough Mg?

edit...episeeds...the jack's/peter's/can lacks chloride. I add bleach to provide this essential element because I use RO water. I do not use beneficials. Obviously there have to be so called essentials missing from this formula but my plants do not seem to notice.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:55 PM
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Hi YS, Based on the numbers from AN it should be enough, but I'll let you all know if I see any Mg deficiencies... I started using that new mix immediately on a group of plants in coco being hand watered once or twice a day about 2 weeks into bloom.
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Carl...I like the change you made but do you think that is going to be enough Mg?

edit...episeeds...the jack's/peter's/can lacks chloride. I add bleach to provide this essential element because I use RO water. I do not use beneficials. Obviously there have to be so called essentials missing from this formula but my plants do not seem to notice.
how much of the jacks / calcnit are you using? Everyone has a different number and I thought I had a bead on it until I noticed some little brown spots on some fan leaves 4 weeks into 12/12. I've been using 3g jacks / peters and 1.5g calcnit - which I think is something I saw in one of your posts on another board. Thanks! PS, I'm in straight bcuzz coco masonry tub beds with blumats no other additives. Also, how much bleach?
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