I thought I would throw up a few pics of my first plant harvested using Scotts Professional + Calc Nit + a few random leftover supplements. I firmly believe that this was my healthiest round of this pheno yet! I have run it three times now, first from seed and twice from clone. Have another clone in veg now and plan to run it under these nutes for further testing.

The strain is Magenta99 (Pakistan Chitral Kush x DTC99) from Dutchgrown Seeds. I also have a DTC99 F2 from Dutchgrown Seeds which is about completed that was grown with Jacks also and is turning out beautiful.

[turbolaser4528]

Originally Posted by Milhouse

I thought I would throw up a few pics of my first plant harvested using Jacks + Calc Nit + a few random leftover supplements. I firmly believe that this was my healthiest round of this pheno yet! I have run it three times now, first from seed and twice from clone. Have another clone in veg now and plan to run it under these nutes for further testing.

The strain is Magenta99 (Pakistan Chitral Kush x DTC99) from Dutchgrown Seeds. I also have a DTC99 F2 from Dutchgrown Seeds which is about completed that was grown with Jacks also and is turning out beautiful.

Sir, those look excellent, very dank indeed!

How are you measuring out the jacks calnit? spoons or scales? I want to avoid having scales at the location hehe, hard to be as precise with measuring spoons though right?

I am curious which additives you used, and under what lighting you grew these ladies under.


Feelings on Drip Clean by H n'G?

I am by no means precise when i measure, I actually use the little scoop that comes in the Jack's Classic tub when i measure. For those that know what i am talking about, it is by no means perfectly accurate.

As far as amounts, i usually mix b/t 1/2 - 1 tsp / gallon of Scotts Professional Hydro, let that mix for 5-10 min, then mix approx 1/4-1/2 tsp / gal of Calc Nit. Towards later into flowering, I cut down dramatically on the Calc Nitrate due to high N, and started using the leftover Cal/Mag i had lying around. I dont measure that, just pour a little in each time. Other supplements included a sample bottle of Bloombastic i had from a while back and some seaweed a few times. No measurements on either, just poured in what I thought was right.

Those pics were taken on Day 53 of 12/12. Harvested shortly after. I think i can do better with this stuff!! I had some major heat issues towards the end of this run which I know cost me some weight. She was vegged under 2 - 65w CFL for a while and flowered under 440w PL-L lights.

I have never used Drip Clean before, i dont use any flush products. I have thought about using some in the future but they are usually too expensive for me. I am a personal grower so all my shit is done on a budget!!

[turbolaser4528]

thanks bro! looks like she yielded well for ya, very frosty and healthy for ya.

Jacks + Calc Nit for me it seems, maybe some Silicon, Kool-Bloom and drip clean in coco w smart/air pots.

Or straight up maxibloom hollaaa

Way cheaper than conventional nutes, I would like to find a super concentrated powdered form of fulvics/kelp/aminos/carbs but I am at a loss..

Here are a few pics of DTC99 at day 53 under Scotts/Peters Professional + Calc Nit. The larger colas are about the length of my forearm.

[*mistress*]

Originally Posted by IwannatokeNbone

can u elaborate on steiners ratios more please, u mean rudolf's? if so please tell, he was pretty interesting, i feel that if u dont over N your plant in there life and give them the other nutes they generally do quite well, 20-20-20 will work all the way through, the plant knows what to take n what to leave behind

from:Making your own Nutrients(by cyberwax)

the base steiner formula, consisting of two 4 liter stock solutions

stock solution part 1
calcium nitrate (15.5% n, 19% ca) @ 364.9 g (12.9 oz)

stock solution part 2
monopotassium phosphate (22.7% p, 28.5%k) @ 83.1 g (2.9 oz)
potassium nitrate (13.75% n, 38% k) @ 55 g (1.9 oz)
potassium sulfate (43% k, 17.5% s) @ 177.2 g (6.3 oz)
iron edta (13% fe) @ 8.7 g (up to 14.5 g when feeding high mn)
zinc edta (14% zn) @ 0.5 g
copper edta (14% cu) @ 0.3 g (up to 1.3 g under intense ligh to reduce fruit cracking)
manganese edta (12% mn) @ 3.1 g
sodium molybdate (39.6% mo) @ 0.1 g
borax or sodium borate (11.3% b) @ 3.3 g

stock solution part 3
epsom salt or magnesium sulfate (9.76% mg, 13% s) @ 193.1 g (6.8 oz)

[making working solution]
this should make 100 gal of stock solution.

to make into working solution, add 1 liter of ea stock solution per 25 gal of final diluted nutrient solution.

full strength should be 170 ppm nitrogen. ec 2.0-2.2. 1300-1430 total ppm.

if need 50% solution, use only 0.5 liter of ea per 25 gal...

the formula works weel in soilless mixes such as peat + perlite + vermiculite., the so-called 'peat-lite' mixes widely used in the greenhouse & nursery industries, & in bark mixes & compost + soil mixes. generally, because of the buffering effects of high organic matter in these mixes, the gardener can increase the feed rates slightly (110-120%) as required for optimum growth of the plant being cultured.

if growing in sand, pebbles, rockwool, or other inert, inorganic substrates, use rates of 100% or less.
when used on solid media, apply enough solution @ ea watering to displace the previously applied fert. this helps minimize dangers of salt build-up.

most of the "20-20-20" formulas contain mostly ammonium and/or urea nitrogen in the "%20"-"N" portion of the ratio... "hydroponic" or "soilless" formulas contain mostly nitrate nitrogen. the difference is that ammounium nitrogen will generally make the ph drop (decline) in the medium, after cation exchange occurs... nitrate nitrogen will generally make the ph rise in the medium, after cation exchange....

urea nitrogen is largely unavailable to soilless/hydroponic plant roots. in soilless/hydroponics, the gardener supplies the elements in a soluble, usable form.... without the need for any further catalytic conversion to a usable form....

nitrate nitrogen is ready for uptake, urea is not. if using soil, 20-20-20 may work well for soil, but with soil-less mixes, the nitrate:ammounium nitrogen ratio is generally 5:1, or even %100 nitrate....

different elements are available at different ph's.... some elements may become totally unavailable (insoluble) if the ph is not in their range of solubility, even if large amounts are present in the rootzone.

Jack's (Peters) Fertilizer, 20-20-20
Total Nitrogen (N) 20%
2.1% Nitrate Nitrogen
17.9% Urea Nitrogen
Available Phosphate (P2O5) 20%
Soluble Potash (K2O) 20%

for comparison: gh maxi-bloom:

Total Nitrogen (N) 5%
0.5% Ammoniacal
4.5% Nitrate

hope this helps.

I am wondering if that is why my veg plants didnt look as lush green as they should of. I have been feeding with Jacks Classic Orchid mix (30-10-10). Just looked it up and only has less than 2% Nitrate N, 28% Urea. My flower plants on the other hand look great, they are being fed Scotts Professional + Calc Nitrate which has considerably more Nitrate N than Jacks Classic.

[orange juice]

Coming in on the home stretch of my new girls and they're looking great. Big thanks to Sam for the advice he posted here, turns out I needed to cut down on the calnit and up the jacks even more. Mg and Si were not a prob but once I up the jacks and lower the calnit I stopped adding epsom salts for the most part, still add Si every water though.

That said I'd give a warning to those following what *mistress* said a few pages back. I wasted a good part of a year with huge problems cuz of the 1:1 ratio and "3-5g/gal calnit" info he had posted. I was having cal deficiency problems and figured I needed more calnit since this guy was saying 1:1 ratio with 3g+ calnit was good. Turned out to be awful advice for all 3 of my strains, once I dropped to around 1.6g/gal calnit and 3.3g/gal jacks as a base then adjust from there (sometimes going closer to 2/3 ratio) things went so much better. Anyone have success with 3+g/gal calnit? I dunno seems way too hot for any cannabis strains I have...

[VagPuncher]

Awesome name - Orange Juice.

[turbolaser4528]

Originally Posted by orange juice

Coming in on the home stretch of my new girls and they're looking great. Big thanks to Sam for the advice he posted here, turns out I needed to cut down on the calnit and up the jacks even more. Mg and Si were not a prob but once I up the jacks and lower the calnit I stopped adding epsom salts for the most part, still add Si every water though.

That said I'd give a warning to those following what *mistress* said a few pages back. I wasted a good part of a year with huge problems cuz of the 1:1 ratio and "3-5g/gal calnit" info he had posted. I was having cal deficiency problems and figured I needed more calnit since this guy was saying 1:1 ratio with 3g+ calnit was good. Turned out to be awful advice for all 3 of my strains, once I dropped to around 1.6g/gal calnit and 3.3g/gal jacks as a base then adjust from there (sometimes going closer to 2/3 ratio) things went so much better. Anyone have success with 3+g/gal calnit? I dunno seems way too hot for any cannabis strains I have...

ouch, Idk if mistress is a dude, sounds like a chick name to me !

YoSem n a few others seem to suggest the 3:2 or 1:.66 ratio.

I guess it depends on strain and other factors??

Drop the calcium nitrate gradually lowering in proportion to the jacks towards the end of flowering, prior to the flush???

No bloom boosters with this formula, I wonder how it can yield though...hmm must try it myself!