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JARofHERB · 01-02-2006, 10:23 AM

https://www.mapinc.org/norml/v05/n2026/a03.htm?134, So we can have seeds Legally.. And also today the med laws have changed in a positive way..https://www.mapinc.org/newsnorml/v05/n2017/a02.html . As if they care anyhow here in Oregon with less than an Oz decrim since 1972, I love my state!!

JARofHERB · 01-02-2006, 10:43 AM

No wonder all of my seed orders have been absolutely safe..now I know why we have had so much dank here in Oregon, since my father was my age this seed law has been in effect since 1972 as well as the decrim of less than an Oz of buds!

01-02-2006, 04:26 PM

An ounce? Gonna have to research personal use vs med use again. But not to rain on your parade but dank is plentiful everywhere thanks to the many successful grows. We've never had any problems with receiving seeds or clones with our equipment as long as orders are reasonable and not bringing attention to a huge greedy commercial grow op. Pride in your state and progress are commendable.

Kudos for the attempts, any gain is good. Unfortunately other states have more lenient laws, for instance in Ohio we can have 100 grams.

Just a shame med states haven't progressed on personal use but everything is a move inthe right direction for the cause, I guess. Med States should have more laws in line with voters' beliefs.

Now if LEO and politicians would actually act like they are enforcing the public wishes. Here's a bowl to the day the Gestpao and Fourth Riech are forced to stop persecution of a harmless houseplant.

Peace.

talktosamson · 01-03-2006, 12:35 AM

good work jar, me and my smokin buddies were just talking about how sweet it is to live in a place like oregon, even more fortunate, I live in a college town so they really dont care about us pot heads

01-03-2006, 02:54 AM

ohio is the state to be with decrim'ed small growing with only tickets for first time offenders within the limits.

01-03-2006, 02:59 AM

No real gains for the patients in my opinion.

---oregon cardholder.

Storm Crow · 01-04-2006, 10:31 AM

I was checking out another cannabis site that had an article about a Mr. Beers in Oregon, who is fighting his charge of driving under the influence when in fact all he had were seeds in his possession. He is basing his case on the fact that seeds are not mentioned in the law. I think I have found an even bigger hole in that same Oregon law. Well, this other site quoted the Oregon law as follows " Any person who knowingly or intentionally is in unlawful possession of less than one advoirdupois ounce of the dried leaves, stems and flowers of the plant Cannabis FAMILY MORACEAE (emphasis mine) is guilty of a violation....." Now checking on www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?8862 , a USDA site, I find that cannabis is actually in the family Cannabaceae, not Moraceae! Then I checked www.leda.lycaeum.org They too had it listed as Cannabaceae. It seems to me that the Oregon law has a huge flaw. There is no such plant as "Cannabis family Moraceae"! The law is legislating against a non-existant plant. I think they will have to rewrite the law and possibly overturn the cases of all of those who were convicted under this flawed law. The judiciary is very picky when it comes to errors in the wording of the law and this is a big error! OK, Oregon, it's up to you to get something done. I'm in another state, so I can't do much. Could someone pass this info along to Mr. Cameron Beers in Pendleton? This taxonomy error is even bigger than the leaving out of the word "seeds" in the Oregon law! Happy New Year and Good Luck, Oregon!

JARofHERB · 01-05-2006, 10:49 PM

Storm Crow,Nice find indeed.... I was also thinking about that as well, as it seems very flawed. Im going to send an email to Oregon NORML's legal team, thanks for the good work..

01-06-2006, 07:10 PM

Storm Crow,
You are correct in your family names. Do a google search for "Oregon State University Herbarium" and their will be a link for the Oregon Plant Vascular Database. Look under both families. The guy who runs the herbarium and database is a world-reknown expert on plant systematics and I highly doubt a court could disprove him...

JARofHERB · 02-05-2006, 07:55 AM

So since seeds are legal here in Oregon, Ive been contemplating an Idea of opening a small seed shop here in my town. Would it be a feasable idea? I mean the state couldnt do anything, but would the feds be up in my ass faster than i could imagine? I have about 10K in savings, and a nice little spot for lease here in town is going for 800 a month. Im seriously considering doing it...

01-02-2006, 10:23 AM	#1
JARofHERB Organic Oregonian.. Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 277	We are charging ahead in oregon.... https://www.mapinc.org/norml/v05/n2026/a03.htm?134, So we can have seeds Legally.. And also today the med laws have changed in a positive way..https://www.mapinc.org/newsnorml/v05/n2017/a02.html . As if they care anyhow here in Oregon with less than an Oz decrim since 1972, I love my state!!
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01-02-2006, 10:43 AM	#2
JARofHERB Organic Oregonian.. Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 277	No wonder all of my seed orders have been absolutely safe..now I know why we have had so much dank here in Oregon, since my father was my age this seed law has been in effect since 1972 as well as the decrim of less than an Oz of buds!
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01-02-2006, 04:26 PM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	An ounce? Gonna have to research personal use vs med use again. But not to rain on your parade but dank is plentiful everywhere thanks to the many successful grows. We've never had any problems with receiving seeds or clones with our equipment as long as orders are reasonable and not bringing attention to a huge greedy commercial grow op. Pride in your state and progress are commendable. Kudos for the attempts, any gain is good. Unfortunately other states have more lenient laws, for instance in Ohio we can have 100 grams. Just a shame med states haven't progressed on personal use but everything is a move inthe right direction for the cause, I guess. Med States should have more laws in line with voters' beliefs. Now if LEO and politicians would actually act like they are enforcing the public wishes. Here's a bowl to the day the Gestpao and Fourth Riech are forced to stop persecution of a harmless houseplant. Peace. Last edited by 1tokeOverLine; 01-02-2006 at 04:33 PM..
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01-03-2006, 12:35 AM	#4
talktosamson Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,560	good work jar, me and my smokin buddies were just talking about how sweet it is to live in a place like oregon, even more fortunate, I live in a college town so they really dont care about us pot heads __________________ 2013 Outdoor Motto "Even Bigger Pots, Even Better Spots" The brown and orange sky holds it’s breath As the sun retreats to the distant horizon, And our hearts palpitate anxiously as we soon will lay supine, And wait for sleep to overcome us -Bad Religion- Nothing that I have ever said or ever will say on these forums are true. They are all lies I have made up to make friends because I can't make them in real life. Whenever I start to really miss my dad, I get real baked and listen to some Neil Young.
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01-03-2006, 02:54 AM	#5
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	ohio is the state to be with decrim'ed small growing with only tickets for first time offenders within the limits.
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01-03-2006, 02:59 AM	#6
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	No real gains for the patients in my opinion. ---oregon cardholder.
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01-04-2006, 10:31 AM	#7
Storm Crow Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,081	Heads Up, Oregon! I was checking out another cannabis site that had an article about a Mr. Beers in Oregon, who is fighting his charge of driving under the influence when in fact all he had were seeds in his possession. He is basing his case on the fact that seeds are not mentioned in the law. I think I have found an even bigger hole in that same Oregon law. Well, this other site quoted the Oregon law as follows " Any person who knowingly or intentionally is in unlawful possession of less than one advoirdupois ounce of the dried leaves, stems and flowers of the plant Cannabis FAMILY MORACEAE (emphasis mine) is guilty of a violation....." Now checking on www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?8862 , a USDA site, I find that cannabis is actually in the family Cannabaceae, not Moraceae! Then I checked www.leda.lycaeum.org They too had it listed as Cannabaceae. It seems to me that the Oregon law has a huge flaw. There is no such plant as "Cannabis family Moraceae"! The law is legislating against a non-existant plant. I think they will have to rewrite the law and possibly overturn the cases of all of those who were convicted under this flawed law. The judiciary is very picky when it comes to errors in the wording of the law and this is a big error! OK, Oregon, it's up to you to get something done. I'm in another state, so I can't do much. Could someone pass this info along to Mr. Cameron Beers in Pendleton? This taxonomy error is even bigger than the leaving out of the word "seeds" in the Oregon law! Happy New Year and Good Luck, Oregon!
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01-05-2006, 10:49 PM	#8
JARofHERB Organic Oregonian.. Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 277	Storm Crow,Nice find indeed.... I was also thinking about that as well, as it seems very flawed. Im going to send an email to Oregon NORML's legal team, thanks for the good work..
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01-06-2006, 07:10 PM	#9
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Storm Crow, You are correct in your family names. Do a google search for "Oregon State University Herbarium" and their will be a link for the Oregon Plant Vascular Database. Look under both families. The guy who runs the herbarium and database is a world-reknown expert on plant systematics and I highly doubt a court could disprove him...
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02-05-2006, 07:55 AM	#10
JARofHERB Organic Oregonian.. Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 277	So since seeds are legal here in Oregon, Ive been contemplating an Idea of opening a small seed shop here in my town. Would it be a feasable idea? I mean the state couldnt do anything, but would the feds be up in my ass faster than i could imagine? I have about 10K in savings, and a nice little spot for lease here in town is going for 800 a month. Im seriously considering doing it...
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