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How about we post a reading list?
I know for myself I hesitate to ask questions or jump in a thread because of all the experts who trash a newby that asks simple questions. We all are not scientists but I for one would like to understand more about the microbe world and would like a push in the right direction.........scrappy4 |
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Teaming with Microbes is a classic microbe manual. Another book thats more plant-related than microbe-related I would recommend is The Secret Life Of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird.
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I see two teaming with microbes books, I take it you mean the organic one wrtten by Jeff Lowenfels and Wayne Lewis?
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Thanks, they are ordered, $28.70 for both with free shipping, on amazon for anyone else that might be curious.......scrappy
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RE: book "teaming with microbes" There are two versions of Teaming With Microbes, get the newer version but be aware Jeff and Wayne are heavily influenced by Dr. Ingham who has written more than a few questionable claims...esp. about composting and anaerobic microbes that she has an unhealthy aversion to and make flat out wrong claims against. RE: books "the secret life of plants" and "secrets of the soil" Those books are fun to read more as fictional works than factual works. Much of the info in "the secret life of plants" has been discredited, much of the info is not proven and many studies reported in the book were pretty flawed. That book includes very few (any?) references to peer-reviewed papers published in respected journals. ------------------------------------------------- Below I complied a long list of resources for you, after you become familiar with concepts, terms and theories I suggest you use Google Scholar (link), Scirus scientific search engine (link) and Organic Eprints search engine (link) to search for published peer-reviewed papers in academic journals for specific information you may be curious about... Below is what I would suggest along with Teaming With Microbes: (Steve Diver is a must read source of legit scientific info) Intros: 1. "Introduction to The Soil Foodweb" Steve Diver https://www.ssawg.org/documents/SSAWG...SDiver-PDF.pdf 2. "Organic Growing from a Microbial Perspective" MicrobeMan https://microbeorganics.com/#Organic_...al_Perspective 3. "SOIL MICROORGANISMS AND HIGHER PLANTS" N. A. Krasil'nikov Academy of Sciences of the USSR Institute of Microbiology https://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglib...rasil.toc.html 4. "The Soil Biology Primer" Elaine R. Ingham, Andrew R. Moldenke, Clive A. Edwards https://soils.usda.gov/sqi/concepts/s...y/biology.html 5. "Soil Foodweb in Organic Farming: Broad-Scale Landcare Examples in Texas" Steve Diver and Betsy Ross https://a-c-s.confex.com/crops/2009am...aper54506.html 6. "Sustainable Agriculture: An Introduction" Richard Earles; revised by Paul Williams https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/sustagintro.html 7. "Towards a Sustainable Agriculture" by Steve Diver https://www.ru.org/artagri.html 8. "What is Sustainable Agriculture?" University of California Sustainable Agriculture Research and Education Program https://www.sarep.ucdavis.edu/concept.htm 9. "The Ideal Soil: A handbook for new agriculture" Micheal Astera and Agricola (I can't comment on this e-book because I have not yet read it, but it comes well recommended to me; password to decrypt file: "more_info" [without quotes]) https://filesurf.ru/209371 Various resources: 1. "ATTRA: National Sustainable Agriculture Information Service" https://attra.org 2. "Rodale Institute: New Farm" https://www.rodaleinstitute.org/new_farm 3. "Rhizosphere II: Publications, Resource Lists,and Web Links" Steve Diver https://web.archive.org/web/20021207081754/https://ncatark.uark.edu/~steved/index.html 4. "AgWeb: The Ultimate Agricultural Research Directory" Steve Diver https://www.attra.org/searchAgWeb.html Microbe Pictures and Video: 1. "Microbe Identification" MicrobeMan https://microbeorganics.com/#Microbe_Identification 2. "Soil Biology Movies" https://www.agron.iastate.edu/~loynachan/mov/ Compost teas: (aerated compost tea [ACT] and non-aerated compost tea [NCT], and liquid compost extract [LCE]) 1. "Compost Teas: A tool for rhizosphere + phyllopshere agriculture" Stever Diver https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/comp...des/sld001.htm 2. "Notes on Compost Teas" Steve Diver https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/compost-tea-notes.html 3. "What is Compost Tea?" MicrobeMan https://microbeorganics.com/#What_is_Compost_Tea_ Compost: (I very much prefer Luebke compost to any other compost) 1. "Controlled Microbial Composting and Humus Management: Luebke Compost" Steve Diver https://www.ibiblio.org/steved/Luebke...-compost2.html 2. "Humus Theories" Steve Diver https://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermai...ry/011737.html 3. "A chromatographic approach to the diagnosis of humus quality and some implications for forest management" Laird, Robert Morris https://circle.ubc.ca/bitstream/hand...pdf?sequence=1 4. "The Rodale Book of Composting" Deborah L. Martin, Grace Gershuny, Jerry Minnich - 1992 ISBN: 0-87857-991-5 (buy) https://www.amazon.com/Rodale-Book-Co.../dp/0878579915 (Read from Google books online) https://books.google.com/books?id=N6s...ed=0CCIQ6AEwAg Humates, humus and humic acid: 1. "All about humates" a must read e-booklet by Dr. Boris V. Levinsky, PhD, a world-renowned colloidal scientist and advanced humic acid researcher https://www.teravita.com/Humates/HumateIntro.htm Check out the info about using humates to cause water to obtain the structure of melted water (previously frozen) for watering plants (link)! [i.e. 0.005-0.009% humates by weight; I have tried using 0.01% for ease of use]) Sections in that booklet:2. MYTH: "Only Fulvic Acids are responsible for plant growth stimulation and development, while the Humic Acids are responsible for improving the soil’s structure." https://www.teravita.com/Realities/Reality%204.htm 3. "The ferments of humic and fulvic acids." (An article explaining research that shows how humic acids can actually play a vital role that is often attributed only to fulvic acids.) https://www.teravita.com/Technical%20...ic%20Acids.htm 4. "Are there natural fulvic acids?" Synopsis by Dr. Boris V. Levinsky, PhD, June 2002. (A brief synopsis of recent research indicating that fulvic acids are only "created" through extraction techniques and are not naturally present in soil, peat, or lignite.) https://www.teravita.com/Technical%20...ic%20acids.htm 5. "Humus, Humic Acid and Humates" https://www.groproorganics.com/images...mic%20Acid.pdf Effective Microorganisms (EM): 1. "Introduction to Effective Microorganisms (EM)" Vinny Pinto (Vinny used to host this good website about EM, and it is still available on WayBackMachine. Some (many?) claims Vinny makes are more his assumption than proven information; so read without taking everything as fact...) https://web.archive.org/web/200805282...nfo/index.html 2. "GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR BREWING EM" Abby Eagle (this is a collection of notes taken from Vinny Pinto's book "Brewing Effective Microorganism Extensions"; thus the same warning applies to this PDF as applied to teh web page of Vinny Pinto) https://essecopia.org/index.php?view=...tent&Itemid=27 2. "BENEFICIAL AND EFFECTIVE MICROORGANISMS: FOR A SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT" Dr. Teruo Higa https://www.agriton.nl/higa.html 3. "EM APPLICATION MANUAL FOR APNAN COUNTRIES: KYUSEI NATURE FARMING WITH EFFECTIVE MICROORGANISMS (EM TECHNOLOGY)" Dr. Teruo Higa (APNAN = ASIA-PACIFIC NATURAL AGRICULTURE NETWORK) https://www.agriton.nl/apnanman.html 4. "SOIL AND SUSTAINABILITY: Effective Microorganisms as Regenerative Systems in Earth Healing" Dan Woodward BA(Hons), MSc (in progress) https://www.livingsoil.co.uk/learning/soilsustain.htm 5. "Effective Microorganisms for Sustainable Community Development: A National Case Study of Cooperation and Co-Prosperity in North Korea for the Preservation of Environmental, Agricultural, Economic, and Cultural Integrity" Higa, Dr. Teruo, Wood, Matthew (Sustainable Community Development is the source I suggest for EM "mother culture"; Matthew Wood has trained directly with Dr. Higa) https://www.envismadrasuniv.org/pdf/E...oorganisms.pdf 6. "EM research in the Netherlands: a Review (1997-1999)" by Agriton and EMRO Nederland https://www.agriton.nl/higareview.html 7. Research and Development of EM (use this site to search for studies on EM) https://emrojapan.com/about-emro/rese...ent-of-em.html Kyusei Nature Farming: (makes extensive use of EM) 1. "Kyusei Nature Farming in Japan" Y. Arakawa https://www.infrc.or.jp/english/KNF_D...a/C1-3-003.pdf 2. "Kyusei Nature Farming and the Technology of Effective Microorganisms Gudelines for Practical Use" T.Kyan, M.Shintani, S.Kanda, M.Sakurai, H.Ohashi, A.Fujisawa and S.Pongdit (password to decrypt file: "more_info" [without quotes]) https://filesurf.ru/209412 3. "Nature Farming" Steve Diver https://www.mail-archive.com/ecopath@.../msg01393.html 4. "CASE STUDIES ON THE POTENTIAL OF EM TECHNOLOGY AND KYUSEI NATURE FARMING IN COMMERCIAL AND RURAL AGRICULTURE IN SOUTH AFRICA WITH SPECIAL REFERENCE TO ITS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON CROP PRODUCTION AND REGENERATIVE QUALITIES ON HERBICIDE CONTAM NATED FRUIT TREES JF Prinsloo,HJ Schoonbee and R Eiselen https://www.bionrg.it/upload/studi/KYUSEI.pdf Beneficial Indigenous Microorganisms (BIM): 1. "Using the ordinary to cultivate the mysterious power of beneficial indigenous microorganisms" Lisa M. Hamilton https://www.rodaleinstitute.org/20040401/Hamilton 2. "Indigenous Microorganisms: Grow Your Own Beneficial Indigenous Microorganisms and Bionutrients In Natural Farming" Gil A. Carandang https://www.permaculture.org/nm/image...oorganisms.pdf 3. "Re: Beneficial Soil Microbia" Steve Diver (about EM, BIM and Luebke composting) https://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/S.../msg00013.html 4. "Indigenous Microorganisms + Korean Natural Farming Association" Steve Diver (with info about Luebke compost methods) https://www.ibiblio.org/london/agricu...nfo2/0169.html 5. "Indigenous Micro Organisms put to work: Effective indigenous micro-organisms can be made to work without external resources and without commercial preparations" by Trainee Masami Sakaban August 1999 (also info about Effective Microorganisms) https://web.archive.org/web/200807220...ources/10.html Permacutlure: 1. "Introduction to Permaculture: Concepts and Resources" Steve Diver https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/perma.html Biodynamics (BD): 1. "Biodynamic Farming & Compost Preparation" Steve Diver (I have strong reservations about many "preparations" from BD due to lack of scientific validation, to me it's like horticultural voodoo. There are many anecdotal accounts BD preps work well, which I do not refute because I have no experience using BD preps, methods or compost...I just don't like the mystical side of it...) https://www.attra.org/attra-pub/biodynamic.html Plant Physiology: (not specifically about microbes but about plant physiology including info about microbes) 1. "Plant Physiology Online" by L. Taiz and E. Zeiger. (Online companion to their seminal work: "Plant physiology. 3rd edn." Sunderland: Sinauer Associates. $104·95. 690 pp.) https://4e.plantphys.net/index2.php 2. "Plant Physiology" Academic Journal (free access to online peer-reviewed published papers) https://www.plantphysiol.org/ Quote:
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If any of those links break you can use WayBackMachine to find cached versions: https://web.archive.org/collections/web.html
UPDATE: I just updated the list to add like 10 more links. Look under the sections "Intros", "Various resources", "Microbe Pictures and Video" and "Effective Microorganisms (EM)" for the links I just added. |
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@ CTGuy:
If you could add your blog/website URL here that would be good, I would have done so but I don't have the URL. Thanks. |
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Thank you very much spur, that should keep me busy for a while.
I should have said newbies get intimidated instead of saying they get trashed. Truthfully I get lost in some of these threads and don't even know what questions to ask. Maybe I should read first and smoke later...... On the other hand I have a nice little grow going with an organic type soil mix that I'm starting to recycle, it rocks, but it would be nice to know, why it works, and to optimize the grows, although things seem to go better when I stay out of it............scrappy |
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See the first section "Intros", it should provide you with a great foundation for learning
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