[erwingruber]

Here we are in the beginning of a log in my first Hydro setup.(pics follow)

-- backround--

After 2 rounds with soil - BigBud and one almost dead cutting that i try and sucesfully grow to my balcony
i setup some 'kind' of RDWC with 4 Sensi feminized Shiva Skunk and the bigger and better seed in soil for mother .

-- the setup --

One big container with 16 gallons (60 litre)of water and one small conatiner with 2 gallons (10 litre) of water connected together .
I am going to use the small container to top off water manualy , mix nutrients and ..... to keep water chilled when temps rise.
I will trow incide some ice packs wich i found that can keep the water @ 21-22 Celsius for 6-7 hours at least ,
i know it is hard work to keep them coming but i hope that i do not need them for the most of the time.

Another weapon to beat high water temps is my extreme oxygen supply to the container with
20 watt airpumps and 20 inch airstones with almost 1000 litre of air every hour going in the container
as i read from Ask Lucas posts somewhere in the net.
My lights is 250W flurosents for seedlings and early veg and 400 hps for the rest time 4 plants
this time and i am going to scrog in a screen 3' by 2' foot (100cm * 60 cm)..
I haven't found somewhere usefull in detail informations about how i must direct my plants under the screen but
i think that i will find my way when they are above the screen 2-3 inches i will train them under the screen
till 3/4 of the screen full and then going to 12/12 .
I am going to begin with the Lucas formula in R/O water i also have some h202 @ 17,5% and
some canna mononutrients Ca and Mg in case of defiances caused by R/O.

--Thanks and help request --

So you are everyone welcome to my grow log , i need every help that i can get and i must
say a big thanks to everyone around here because i learned almost EVERYTHING from you guys.


--pics--

I will post some pictures from the setup after cleaning and seting up and one pic from my outdoor
survivor Big Bud that i am going to harvest in about 2 weeks .


My outdoor survivor Big Bud height almost 3-4 foot (1-1,2 meters)
(survive with temps sometimes over 110 F (43 celsius) drinking over 1gallon - 6 liters per day )


My closet after cleaning with Bleach


Conatiners Installed


We are waiting seeds to sprout they germinate all 5 of them in 24 hours in paper towel and some make it to over half inch.
Rockwool will be hand watered 2-3 times a day with R/O with a bit of root stimulator inside





This is it for now , the next upate will come when we see the light for first time

[erwingruber]

Wow these seeds are racers !!!!

From seed to sprout in 48 hours i am amazed .
Here are 2 pics from the Shiva Skunk sprouts





And one pic from Big bud bondage

[tjo]

hi.!

if you want Rerciculating sustem you have to buy 1 water pump.
in that case you gonna need a small one-about 500l/hour or less-
put the water pump inside the small conatiner and rerciculate the
water.

good luck

[erwingruber]

@tjo

Happy to pass by ,
I have a 650l/hour water pump for the water circulation between these two containers and this is how i manage to keep water temps around 21 Celsious with the Ice packs as i told you and in your log.I have another water pump with 450l\h and i am thinking to install it in a way that it drip water above the net pots with hydroton what do you think about this ?

[erwingruber]

Hello again seedlings going fine in rockwool.
The one in soil Realy rocks.
I will post some new detailed pics tommorow but i need an answer.

The roots done it half inch out of the rockwool in the small green tray and i am thinking that is time for transplant the to the RDWC system.

If i place the rockwool in my big 5 inch netpots filled with clay how the water will reach the rockwool until the roots find the water.
Wich is the level of the water i must have ?

Bellow the net pot or half inch of the netpot/clay in the water ?
and if the water toches the netpot/clay is this enough to moist the rockwoll or i must top feed for start ,

thanks i will post some root pics tomorow.

[erwingruber]

Ok here i am with some new pics and the same question

Here you can see the roots of the seedlings , i place the rockwoll in netpots filled with clay , the rockwool is above water level but the water manage it to soak them.
The net pots is inside this little green tray with ph @5,8 and ppm(0,7) @ 400 with GH seedlings shedule R/O water.
The question is if this is the correct way to raise the seedlings until they have enough root mass for translant to the big netpots in the RDWC system.

Please every help is valuable







Look @ the difference the soil seddling is from the bigger seed , the rockwool seedlings until now they water feed with R/O and some root stimulator

[erwingruber]

come on guys !!! no one here to help ,

In the green container i put 2 liters of water @ 400 ppm(0.7) after 4 hours i notice that the ppm rise to 615.
Do you think that maybe i did not clean enough the clay rocks and this cause the ppm to rise?
I make 5 or 6 washes with plenty of tap water and the last wash with ph ed R/O water the runof is almost crystalclear.

I am thinking tomorow to remove the rockwool+seedling from the small netpot's and put them to the big 3,5 litre (almost 1 gallon) netpot's with a drip system that will feed 4 times/15 min in my 24/0 schedule

Come on pls give me some help .
Thanks

[johnny drama]

what i always do is transplant them into the dwc net pot as soon as i see 3to 4 roots coming through the rockwool. i have the water level about 1" above the bottom of the net pot. once i have the nutes mixed in the bucket i just use a plastic beer cup to dip in the bucket and then hand water the plant 1-2 times a day until the root grow down into the water and then i lower the water level till there is about 3-4" between the net pot and water level(i use 5gl dwc buckets). if your ppms are rising its probably too high try diluting it they don't need much when little. its probably not the hydroton pellets cause those tend to cause PH swings. not sure if I would go with dripper system just cause the roots will grow down and explode soon enough.

[erwingruber]

Hello , here i am with some updates and as always with some questions .

I am amazed from the growth rate difference between the seed in soil and the ones in rockwoll & clay watered drain to waist

(i admit that the one in soil was double the size from all the other seeds)

The hydro sprouts watered 2 or 3 times a day with GH nutes G,M,B @ about 400 ppm(.7) ph 5.8
I am waiting the roots from the sprouts to find the way out of the net pots so i can fill the tank with nutrient solution and i hope then to catch up the soil sprout.

The soil seed takes only some Hesi root stimulator.

Take a look @ the pics

Soil sprout



Family picture soil is going to be the mom



Another Family capture



This is it for now , any recomendations will be very helpfull
Any ideas for the growth difference will be helpfull too.

Soon more updates.

[erwingruber]

Two pics from my balcony soil Big Bud near harvest
Branches too heavy to support their self